Dispute with condo board over rental

lyle12

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I own a condo in NYC. It's a small building. I've been renting out my unit for almost 10 years. There is an annual rental fee of $1000. All leases are 12 months in length except. the most recent lease.


1. The first renter stayed for 2.5 years and asked to leave mid lease b/c she was getting married. The condo board agreed to allocate 1/2 of the already paid rental fee to the next renter.


2. The next renters stayed 5.75 years - leaving b/c they were expecting a baby and needed more space. The condo board refused to apply the 1/4 already paid rental fee to the next owner. Their point was that a) they should never have credited me for the already paid rental fee to the next owner. b) there is wear and tear on the building when new renters move in. After some back and forth I agreed to forfeit the already paid fee. It was only $250. Plus the condo board needs to approve my tenant - so any delay would cause a much larger financial loss.


3. I signed the next and current tenants to a 14 month lease to ensure future renewal happens in the summer. (More demand in warmer months). I paid the 1000 fee. The rental fee was recently due and I paid 2 months of rental fee (~$200) and told the condo board I would pay the full 1000 when the tenants renew. This way, the rental fee and the renewal are in sync. The board returned the payment and requested I pay the full 1000. If the tenants don't renew this year or any future year I will forfeit ~800. This seems a bit punitive and strikes me as a money grab.


The actual language of the by laws : "Each Owner who rents his/her Apartment Unit must pay an annual rental fee of $1,000.00 to Condominium at the start of and each anniversary of the rental"


Any advice on how to handle this? The board has not held annually required board meetings or elections since 2021. They also haven't sent out financials since 2021.
 
The actual language of the by laws : "Each Owner who rents his/her Apartment Unit must pay an annual rental fee of $1,000.00 to Condominium at the start of and each anniversary of the rental"

It's a money grab no matter how you look at it. But it's in the by-laws and that's what you agreed to when you bought the condo and decided to rent it out.

But the way I read it is that you owe the $1000 each year on the anniversary date no matter how few months the tenant remains.

And when a new tenant moves in after the 14 month tenant moves out, you owe another $1000 per year for the new tenant even if that new tenant renews for only a fraction of the year.

And another $1000 for the next tenant and so on.

How much do you charge for rent?

The board has not held annually required board meetings or elections since 2021. They also haven't sent out financials since 2021.

Has absolutely nothing to do with your rental fee.

If you want to address those issues, get together with like minded owners, vote out the old board, vote in a new board, and vote in appropriate changes and/or clarification of the rental fee. Be prepared to be a board member.
 
It's a money grab no matter how you look at it. But it's in the by-laws and that's what you agreed to when you bought the condo and decided to rent it out.

But the way I read it is that you owe the $1000 each year on the anniversary date no matter how few months the tenant remains.

And when a new tenant moves in after the 14 month tenant moves out, you owe another $1000 per year for the new tenant even if that new tenant renews for only a fraction of the year.

And another $1000 for the next tenant and so on.

How much do you charge for rent?



Has absolutely nothing to do with your rental fee.

If you want to address those issues, get together with like minded owners, vote out the old board, vote in a new board, and vote in appropriate changes and/or clarification of the rental fee. Be prepared to be a board member.
Right now I've been communicating with the building manager. An outside hired agent. He's a robot and a money shark. I think my best option is to appeal to the condo board president directly. Forfeiting 80% of the fee is quite punitive. Sometimes he's agreeable if you go weep at his feet.

I was pondering if mentioning the lack of financials & board meetings/elections to the board president as a way to nudge him, but that might set him off.

As far as voting out the current board - we tried a few years ago. The building has a commercial tenant who votes with the board not mater what. That's a huge %. That and the current board members have a large ownership stake. The board actually got a resident who was actively selling her unit to run for the board. (4 seats total) This was to prevent the upstarts from getting a position. Seller made a deal with board to be a yes person in exchange for smooth sailing during the sale. Disagreeing with the board and not playing nice means trouble for dissenters. Play nice and get favorable treatment. I almost wish I wasn't a dissenter a few years ago as feeble as that sounds. I think other non-board members feel the same and hence we all live in a dictatorship.

Sorry for the rant.
 
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A possible solution is to pay 1200 upfront that way the rental fee date and lease renewal dates are in sync. Condo Board gets 100% of what they are owed.
 
Given the high level of rents in NYC, I am a little surprised that this annual $1,000 fee at the start of and each anniversary of the rental, is such a big deal. Maybe I am wrong about that.
 

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