Advise for Modification Hearing

danim

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Georgia
My fiance' has filed for a modification and goes to court with the custodial mother tomorrow in Hall County. They have been divorced for 6 years and presently have joint physical and legal custody. Because he could not afford to live in the same area in order to pay child support and often had to pay her rent and utilities because she could not hold a job, the children (12 year old girl and 17 year old boy) live with the mother. She has never complied with the court order and feels they are her children and decides at her discretion when the father can see them. She has refused to ever transport the children to or from visitation and although the order says he gets them in the summer, she refuses and has even taken them out of town on his weekend without letting him know. He has never been late on his child support and not only pays that but she signed the daughter up for competitive cheer and makes him pay. She has even gone to the extend of calling him saying the daughter is crying until he pays (which she was not). He pays for school lunches, clothing, all school supplies including laptops and the mother will call demanding he buy groceries and pay utilities to avoid disconnection. He also had to pay for a trip to Disney for competition to avoid his daughter missing out. The mother pays absolutely nothing and he is forced to put things on credit cards to take care of the children's needs. The children share a bedroom and have never been to the dentist. The son failed math (going into his senior year) and when he gave the mother 1/2 the money for summer school, she refused to pay the other half and even said she needed the money he provided for her bills. We have a 4 bedroom home where the children have their own bedrooms. The 17 year old does not like change so the father would like to ask for custody of the daughter. He feels we provide a better home and she is happier with us. We life in one of the best school districts (Lambert High) and the daughter is a great student that would thrive there. The mother was previously in drug rehab for prescription drugs 5 times which was a big factor in their divorce. Her behavior and spending habits lead my fiance to suspect she may be using again. She has turned of her daughter's cell phone recently so she can not call her father. She calls the father up to 50 times a day and even calls his office if he won't answer and verbally attacked me at a cheer competition in front of the children. Their stove has been broken for two years and threatened to not allow the children to attend our upcoming wedding. The daughter adores her father and I have a great relationship with her. I also have a 16 year old daughter at home and the girls are very close. The modification required a mediator which the father tried to schedule. The court called the mother and she refused to schedule it. We have no idea if she is going to show up for court tomorrow and I am hoping to provide the father with any advise someone could share on what he can expect. Also, in a modification he was hoping to enforce what they initially agreed to but now would like to get custody of his daughter. Would the judge listen to that at a modification hearing? He is not concerned about child support modification except for her to understand he is not obligated to pay additional. He has also told her he will no longer pay for cheer which the daughter does love but she won't unenroll her and Friday will be the first time he will refuse to pay although he gave plenty of notice and the mother will not pay either yet blames him on crushing her dreams. Looking forward to any advise as we are nervous for tomorrow. Although this is their hearing, I live through this daily and am tired of seeing his daughter, who I have come to love, cry every time her mother calls and yells at her while in our care.
 
Nothing you've mentioned rises to the point of a judge changing custody.

Dad created the distance, but he expects Mom to drive? That's not how that works, either.
 
WOW. The court order requires each parent to transport one way for visitation. So court ordered rules do not apply?
 
My fiance' has filed for a modification and goes to court with the custodial mother tomorrow in Hall County. They have been divorced for 6 years and presently have joint physical and legal custody. Because he could not afford to live in the same area in order to pay child support and often had to pay her rent and utilities because she could not hold a job, the children (12 year old girl and 17 year old boy) live with the mother. She has never complied with the court order and feels they are her children and decides at her discretion when the father can see them. She has refused to ever transport the children to or from visitation and although the order says he gets them in the summer, she refuses and has even taken them out of town on his weekend without letting him know. He has never been late on his child support and not only pays that but she signed the daughter up for competitive cheer and makes him pay. She has even gone to the extend of calling him saying the daughter is crying until he pays (which she was not). He pays for school lunches, clothing, all school supplies including laptops and the mother will call demanding he buy groceries and pay utilities to avoid disconnection. He also had to pay for a trip to Disney for competition to avoid his daughter missing out. The mother pays absolutely nothing and he is forced to put things on credit cards to take care of the children's needs. The children share a bedroom and have never been to the dentist. The son failed math (going into his senior year) and when he gave the mother 1/2 the money for summer school, she refused to pay the other half and even said she needed the money he provided for her bills. We have a 4 bedroom home where the children have their own bedrooms. The 17 year old does not like change so the father would like to ask for custody of the daughter. He feels we provide a better home and she is happier with us. We life in one of the best school districts (Lambert High) and the daughter is a great student that would thrive there. The mother was previously in drug rehab for prescription drugs 5 times which was a big factor in their divorce. Her behavior and spending habits lead my fiance to suspect she may be using again. She has turned of her daughter's cell phone recently so she can not call her father. She calls the father up to 50 times a day and even calls his office if he won't answer and verbally attacked me at a cheer competition in front of the children. Their stove has been broken for two years and threatened to not allow the children to attend our upcoming wedding. The daughter adores her father and I have a great relationship with her. I also have a 16 year old daughter at home and the girls are very close. The modification required a mediator which the father tried to schedule. The court called the mother and she refused to schedule it. We have no idea if she is going to show up for court tomorrow and I am hoping to provide the father with any advise someone could share on what he can expect. Also, in a modification he was hoping to enforce what they initially agreed to but now would like to get custody of his daughter. Would the judge listen to that at a modification hearing? He is not concerned about child support modification except for her to understand he is not obligated to pay additional. He has also told her he will no longer pay for cheer which the daughter does love but she won't unenroll her and Friday will be the first time he will refuse to pay although he gave plenty of notice and the mother will not pay either yet blames him on crushing her dreams. Looking forward to any advise as we are nervous for tomorrow. Although this is their hearing, I live through this daily and am tired of seeing his daughter, who I have come to love, cry every time her mother calls and yells at her while in our care.


My fiance' has filed for a modification and goes to court with the custodial mother tomorrow in Hall County. They have been divorced for 6 years and presently have joint physical and legal custody. Because he could not afford to live in the same area in order to pay child support and often had to pay her rent and utilities because she could not hold a job, the children (12 year old girl and 17 year old boy) live with the mother.

He did not "have" to pay her rent and utilities. He chose to do so.

She has never complied with the court order and feels they are her children and decides at her discretion when the father can see them. She has refused to ever transport the children to or from visitation and although the order says he gets them in the summer, she refuses and has even taken them out of town on his weekend without letting him know. He has never been late on his child support and not only pays that but she signed the daughter up for competitive cheer and makes him pay. She has even gone to the extend of calling him saying the daughter is crying until he pays (which she was not). He pays for school lunches, clothing, all school supplies including laptops and the mother will call demanding he buy groceries and pay utilities to avoid disconnection. He also had to pay for a trip to Disney for competition to avoid his daughter missing out. The mother pays absolutely nothing and he is forced to put things on credit cards to take care of the children's needs. The children share a bedroom and have never been to the dentist. The son failed math (going into his senior year) and when he gave the mother 1/2 the money for summer school, she refused to pay the other half and even said she needed the money he provided for her bills. We have a 4 bedroom home where the children have their own bedrooms. The 17 year old does not like change so the father would like to ask for custody of the daughter. He feels we provide a better home and she is happier with us. We life in one of the best school districts (Lambert High) and the daughter is a great student that would thrive there.

He should have taken her to court for contempt as soon as this became a problem. Child support and visitation are two separate things. He could have never paid child support and that doesn't affect his visitation. I will say when I was with my ex husband his ex wife constantly was in contempt and he never took her to court. She refused some weekends. He never got his six weeks in the last five years. Whose fault is that? His for not taking her to court and holding her accountable. Same as your fiancé. I told him to take her but that's on him. Not me. I was legally no one as are you. Oh and also – kids can share bedrooms. There is no age limit. There is no punishment for kids sharing a bedroom.


The mother was previously in drug rehab for prescription drugs 5 times which was a big factor in their divorce. Her behavior and spending habits lead my fiance to suspect she may be using again. She has turned of her daughter's cell phone recently so she can not call her father. She calls the father up to 50 times a day and even calls his office if he won't answer and verbally attacked me at a cheer competition in front of the children. Their stove has been broken for two years and threatened to not allow the children to attend our upcoming wedding.

So she's an addict – and? That doesn't stop people from being parents or the law allowing them to be parents. Does he have proof she's using and around the kids? My ex husband has been in rehab 3 times in the last four years – that doesn't remove his visitation. She can shut off her daughter's cell phone if she wants to do so. Broken stove means what? She doesn't have to allow the kids to go to the wedding unless it is on his parenting time.


The daughter adores her father and I have a great relationship with her. I also have a 16 year old daughter at home and the girls are very close. The modification required a mediator which the father tried to schedule. The court called the mother and she refused to schedule it. We have no idea if she is going to show up for court tomorrow and I am hoping to provide the father with any advise someone could share on what he can expect. Also, in a modification he was hoping to enforce what they initially agreed to but now would like to get custody of his daughter. Would the judge listen to that at a modification hearing? He is not concerned about child support modification except for her to understand he is not obligated to pay additional. He has also told her he will no longer pay for cheer which the daughter does love but she won't unenroll her and Friday will be the first time he will refuse to pay although he gave plenty of notice and the mother will not pay either yet blames him on crushing her dreams. Looking forward to any advise as we are nervous for tomorrow. Although this is their hearing, I live through this daily and am tired of seeing his daughter, who I have come to love, cry every time her mother calls and yells at her while in our care.

You better get used to this if you're going to marry the guy because YOU can't do anything. He should have done this a long time ago with modification or taking her to court for contempt. Why can't he come on here and get his own advice? If he wants true legal advice, he needs to call a lawyer. If he wants to change custody he has to file for a change – but as stated he likely won't get it. There's no considerable change to allow him to get sole custody. If it's not in the order for him to pay for extracurriculars then he doesn't have to. If it is in the order, then he has to pay.

Yeah it sucks to be the stepparent or the significant other in these cases. I was there. I was the girlfriend and then the stepmom. I didn't really ever talk to her unless she messaged me (his ex) and the first time I messaged her was after I saw her make their daughter cry and pulled her into custody situations. She admitted to it and said she "had to" in order to get him to do what he was supposed to do. Add in to the fact she also felt the need one time to say that he and I "deserved" to have a sick child (our daughter has medical conditions) that was the final straw. Granted he wasn't the best husband nor is he the best father but she had her issues to. You're going to be stepmom – you need to tread the line carefully on when and how you get involved. Honestly things you do or say could bite him in court or cause even more undue stress and drama. So pick and choose your battles.
 
Thank you for your honest advise. (Although I didn't like hearing some of it, it was honest and that's hard to get from people that are close to you who tell you what you want to hear.)You are correct, he has let her be in control and she treated him as a doormat. He has a great heart and will do anything for his children. He has now stepped up to the plate and it's been the crazy nightmare that he expected which is why he did not for so long. He was willing to put up with it until we got engaged and I drew a line in the sand. Of course, which is why she hates me. I am surprised on your opinion of the bedroom issue. I can't imaging a 12 year old girl sharing a room with a 17 year old boy and feel it's extremely inappropriate. She has never even taken them to the dentist. We want to ask for a drug test at court. Do you feel they would allow that?
 
Thank you for your honest advise. (Although I didn't like hearing some of it, it was honest and that's hard to get from people that are close to you who tell you what you want to hear.)You are correct, he has let her be in control and she treated him as a doormat. He has a great heart and will do anything for his children. He has now stepped up to the plate and it's been the crazy nightmare that he expected which is why he did not for so long. He was willing to put up with it until we got engaged and I drew a line in the sand. Of course, which is why she hates me. I am surprised on your opinion of the bedroom issue. I can't imaging a 12 year old girl sharing a room with a 17 year old boy and feel it's extremely inappropriate. She has never even taken them to the dentist. We want to ask for a drug test at court. Do you feel they would allow that?

There are a lot of people who are a significant other who come on here and act like they are the parent when they aren't even a stepparent yet so just gotta be blunt. Some people take the advice. Some get defensive. I did my best with my stepkids but I knew I wasn't their mom. Even though right before what ended up being me filing for divorce they wanted to start to call me Mom. I was very torn. I felt honored they would be that comfortable to do that but at the same time they have a mom and live with her. I knew she would have flipped shit if she heard that too. I wouldn't really like my daughter calling someone else mom. I won't let her call someone else dad (even though her dad is a piece of crap). Probably won't ever date anyone else anyway til she's much older. Anyway just tread lightly. Being a stepparent is extremely hard sometimes especially when the ex is how you describe his.

You can ask for anything doesn't mean the judge will order it. I mean if he has no proof that she's using it might come off as vindictive. I don't think there is a law that states one has to take their children to the dentist. I don't know why you wouldn't. But I know people who never went to the dentist regularly until they joined the military. We went once a year but not everyone has insurance or can afford it or for whatever reason. Are they having dental issues that need to be addressed? He does have joint legal right? He can take them.

Why is it inappropriate for siblings of any age to share a room? I never have understood that. This forum gets the question all the time "can siblings of the opposite gender share a room?" Why wouldn't they? I mean unless there is a history of inappropriate behavior what's the issue? I'm the only girl out of five kids. The only reason I got moved out of the room with my brother when I was about 10 or 11 is because our youngest brother couldn't fit into the room with our two oldest. I didn't even really get my own "room." It was like an area upstairs and my dad never had the money or time to actually build me a room. So I would either have to go change in the bathroom or really fast if I heard people come upstairs because I never knew if it was my brothers or their friends. (The computer was in our parents room eventually when I was like a junior in high school so we had to go in there to use it). I never had an issue sharing a room with my brothers. Ever. We're all about 2 years apart except the youngest is 4 years from the next youngest. My youngest brother actually would come sleep in my bed with me when he was little every time there was a thunderstorm and I'm six years older than him. So what? I could see if some child had a past of being inappropriate with their siblings but otherwise siblings don't think of each other sexually. Even with stepsiblings people ask that question - well what if you have stepsiblings of the same gender and one is homosexual...would that question get asked about if it's appropriate?

It's different if you have a random 12 year old girl and random 17 year old boy - like in foster care situations (which they can't do that in foster care) sharing a room. But siblings - especially when you're blood related and grew up together...why would anything be inappropriate about that? Just my view.
 
Thank you again for your reply and advise. Court went great. The mother did not show up and the judge granted everything he asked for. Now we have to be prepared when she does not abide to seek a contempt order. She told the father he should have reminded her even after a Sheriff served her! He also ordered every special stipulation we asked for giving her 60 days to have separate bedrooms for the children and to get them all checkups including dental and vision, repair her stove, divide extra activities 50/50, custody if utilities are cut off or she is evicted, all communication through only text unless an emergency, and children will attend our wedding. The mother is of course furious.
 
Thank you again for your reply and advise. Court went great. The mother did not show up and the judge granted everything he asked for. Now we have to be prepared when she does not abide to seek a contempt order. She told the father he should have reminded her even after a Sheriff served her! He also ordered every special stipulation we asked for giving her 60 days to have separate bedrooms for the children and to get them all checkups including dental and vision, repair her stove, divide extra activities 50/50, custody if utilities are cut off or she is evicted, all communication through only text unless an emergency, and children will attend our wedding. The mother is of course furious.

Well she should have shown up because had she I doubt he would have gotten some of what was requested. I find it odd that it was ordered on the separate bedrooms though. Hey that's what happens when people don't use the system. My divorce was a default decree because he didn't show up and parenting time at my discretion because of that and not doing parenting class. That's my fault though...I screwed him over because he was too busy getting high to come to the divorce hearing or spend $40 on an online class.
 
Sad what parents's priorities are. She told that father last night that he was getting married and had a new family so leave her's alone. Seriously?! I watched some cases yesterday that broke my heart. The judge took a 10 year old into chambers when both parents were meth addicts and asked what she wanted. We watched so many cases before ours and learned that separate bedrooms were a hot button for him. Judges are human and another judge may have easily not cared about it. We were concerned because the daughter has mentioned it several times that she feels uncomfortable with it.
 
Sad what parents's priorities are. She told that father last night that he was getting married and had a new family so leave her's alone. Seriously?! I watched some cases yesterday that broke my heart. The judge took a 10 year old into chambers when both parents were meth addicts and asked what she wanted. We watched so many cases before ours and learned that separate bedrooms were a hot button for him. Judges are human and another judge may have easily not cared about it. We were concerned because the daughter has mentioned it several times that she feels uncomfortable with it.

I guess if she's uncomfortable but I would find out why because I was never uncomfortable sharing a room with any of my brothers.
 
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