Bizarre behavior busted!

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Who?
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Moors seeking MORE freedom?
Hmmm, MOOR sovereign sillyzens.


Massachusetts cops issue urgent 'shelter-in-place' warning with eight heavily armed men on the run | Daily Mail Online


Wakefield Standoff Suspects Claim To Be Part Of Group Called 'Rise Of The Moors'


WAKEFIELD, MA — An hourslong standoff with a group of heavily armed men that partially shut down Interstate 95 ended Saturday with 11 suspects in custody, Massachusetts state police said.

Police initially reported nine suspects were taken into custody, but two more were taken into custody in their vehicle later Saturday morning.

Two suspects were hospitalized, but police said it was for preexisting conditions that had nothing to do with the standoff.

Mass State Police Col. Christopher Mason said the suspects surrendered after police tactical teams used armored vehicles to tighten the perimeter around them.

The standoff shut down a portion of I-95 for much of the morning, causing major traffic problems during the Fourth of July holiday weekend. Authorities said the interstate is now reopened and the shelter-in-place orders for Wakefield and Reading were lifted.

In Massachusetts, Interstate 95 runs from the Rhode Island line, around Boston to the New Hampshire line. Wakefield is just east of where Interstate 95 and 93 meet north of Boston.

The standoff began around 2 a.m. when police noticed two cars pulled over on I-95 with hazard lights on after they had apparently run out of fuel, authorities said at a Saturday press briefing.

At least some of the suspects were clad in military-style gear with long guns and pistols, Mason said. He added that they were headed to Maine from Rhode Island for "training."

"You can imagine 11 armed individuals standing with long guns slung on an interstate highway at 2 in the morning certainly raises concerns and is not consistent with the firearms laws that we have in Massachusetts," Mason said.

He said he understood the suspects, who did not have firearms licenses, have a different perspective on the law.

"I appreciate that perspective," he said "I disagree with that perspective at the end of the day, but I recognize that it's there."

The men refused to put down their weapons or comply with authorities' orders, claiming to be from a group "that does not recognize our laws" before taking off into a wooded area, police said.

Police and prosecutors are working to determine what charges the members of the group will face.

The suspects were expected to appear in court in Woburn on Tuesday, Middlesex County District Attorney Marian Ryan said.

Mason said the "self-professed leader" of the group wanted it to be known that they are not antigovernment.

"I think the investigation that follows from this interaction will provide us more insight into what their motivation, what their ideology is," Mason said.

In a video posted to social media Saturday morning, a man who did not give his name, but said he was from a group called Rise of the Moors, broadcast from Interstate 95 in Wakefield near exit 57.

"We are not antigovernment. We are not anti-police, we are not sovereign citizens, we're not Black identity extremists," said the man who appeared to be wearing military-style equipment. "As specified multiple times to the police that we are abiding by the peaceful journey laws of the United States."

The website for the group says they are "Moorish Americans dedicated to educating new Moors and influencing our Elders."

Mason said he had no knowledge of the group, but it was not unusual for the state police to encounter people who have "sovereign citizen ideology," although he did not know if the people involved in the Wakefield standoff was a part of that.
 
Local story for me. The comments on the story in the Globe are interesting, to say the least.
 
That was most unusual, as well as disturbing.

I suppose I'll just add this to all those other things in life that I'll never understand.

They just keep intoning, "You have no probable cause" to stop.

I don't get it. Being pulled over with your hazards *is* a reason for a state trooper to stop and assess. If you're just replacing a tire, for example, the state troopers will put up flares and direct traffic around you; we've always found them to be helpful that way.

I don't think we've heard the end of this.
 
They just keep intoning, "You have no probable cause" to stop.

Then they obviously don't have a good grasp of the law in this area. The police don't need probable cause to make a stop. They only need reasonable suspicion that a crime has been or is about to be committed. Moreover, the police didn't stop them. They were already stopped on the side of the road with hazards on. As they are already stopped, nothing prevents the cops from coming up to them and talking to them. But if they want to leave, the cops cannot stop them from leaving unless they detain them, which again requires reasonable suspicion. The standard of probable cause is needed to make an arrest.
 
Then they obviously don't have a good grasp of the law in this area. The police don't need probable cause to make a stop. They only need reasonable suspicion that a crime has been or is about to be committed. Moreover, the police didn't stop them. They were already stopped on the side of the road with hazards on. As they are already stopped, nothing prevents the cops from coming up to them and talking to them. But if they want to leave, the cops cannot stop them from leaving unless they detain them, which again requires reasonable suspicion. The standard of probable cause is needed to make an arrest.

Exactly.

In addition to their poor grasp of that legal concept, and its application, they also misunderstand the federal statute on interstate travel with firearms. Yes, you can travel with your firearms, but there are also (common sense) rules on how to do this legally. You don't just drive around with an AR-15 on your lap.
 
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