Shoplifting, Larceny, Robbery, Theft Caught shoplifting at a retail giant- a few questions

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bdare

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I was recently caught shoplifting at a retail store in Michigan this past March. :blush
I was for the most part cooperative with the LP, but refused for him to further check my bag after giving him one of the items.
He then called the police. The police officer came and i was totally cooperative. I then gave the rest of the merchandise, totaling $28.00.

After the officer did a background check and saw that I had no priors, they pretty much just asked me questions like; why did i do it and the consequences of shoplifting. The officer explained that my county offers a diversion program for $80. The LP gave me a copy of the civil demand letter and told me what to expect in the mail. They didn't have me sign anything and Nothing further was done, and they let me leave. In reading the previous posts, some people were given a letter to never return to the store. I didn't? 1) Does this mean i'm still allowed to shop in the store again or did he just forget to give it to me?

I received the Civil Demand letter from a company by the name of XXXX, stating the situation and a fine for $200. But in the companys FAQ section it states;"If I pay for the civil penalty, do I still have to go to criminal court? Yes, the civil penalty is a separate issue from any criminal case that may be pending. At the time of the apprehension, the retailer has the right to decide to criminally prosecute a shoplifter, which will result in the criminal case being handled by the local courts or state attorneys. Our law firm is only handling the civil issue and therefore do not have any control or information about any criminal proceedings."

2) If I pay the Civil Demand of $200, what are the chances this company will press criminal charges against me for $28?
3) After I pay, does the store then contact the court?
The officer never gave me anything in writing (as i see in previous posts, people receiving a court date?)
The officer mentioned the diversion program, but i still haven't gotten anything on that either. Or is it only offered once I go to court?
4)And lastly, if i just pay the civil demand, will any of this be on my record (if i hear nothing else about court in the mail?) -other posts say there's a retail database.

Any help on answering my questions is helpful, and my apologies if this was already answered in your previous posts :(

I am totally regreting my decision to steal from this store. and i understand the reason for the whole civil demand from these stores. It just shows how a moments decision to do something so petty can turn into a larger ordeal. My main concern is this not going on my record. I'm a married, working, 34 year old mother of 4 who made a mistake (I know people say this all the time, but i will NEVER do this again)
 
1. The Civil demand has "nothing" to do with any pending criminal case. If you have a court date you "must" attend

2. Police were involved its likely the charges have been pressed. Do you have a court date?

3. As stated the Civil demand and any criminal case have nothing to do with each other

4. If no criminal charges are filed there will be no criminal record. Now if the store is a subscriber to retail theft database your name will likely be inputted into system
 
1. The Civil demand has "nothing" to do with any pending criminal case. If you have a court date you "must" attend
I didn't receive any court date?

2. Police were involved its likely the charges have been pressed. Do you have a court date?
That's what i was wondering, but the police officer didn't give me anything

3. As stated the Civil demand and any criminal case have nothing to do with each other
Will I be charged later? after they receive their money from the civil demand?

4. If no criminal charges are filed there will be no criminal record. Now if the store is a subscriber to retail theft database your name will likely be inputted into system
Will this database effect my record? like if I apply for a job?, or does that just stay within the retail industry?

Thanks for your prompt response
 
1. The Civil demand has "nothing" to do with any pending criminal case. If you have a court date you "must" attend
I didn't receive any court date?
(Yet)

2. Police were involved its likely the charges have been pressed. Do you have a court date?
That's what i was wondering, but the police officer didn't give me anything
(Still might come in mail)

3. As stated the Civil demand and any criminal case have nothing to do with each other
Will I be charged later? after they receive their money from the civil demand?
(Once again the two have nothing to do with each other)

4. If no criminal charges are filed there will be no criminal record. Now if the store is a subscriber to retail theft database your name will likely be inputted into system
Will this database effect my record? like if I apply for a job?, or does that just stay within the retail industry?
(It effects any job from a subscriber of this database)
 
Lastly (and I'll just leave it alone after these questions :( )

1. The Civil demand has "nothing" to do with any pending criminal case. If you have a court date you "must" attend
I didn't receive any court date?
(Yet)
-SO IF I GET A COURT DATE AND PLEAD NOT GUILTY AND GET A PUBLIC DEFENDER, DO I THEN ASK FOR THE DIVERSION PROGRAM?....
-AND IF I GO TO THIS PROGRAM (that costs $80), do i still have to pay additional court fees?


2. Police were involved its likely the charges have been pressed. Do you have a court date?
That's what i was wondering, but the police officer didn't give me anything
(Still might come in mail)
-But if the store doesn't press any additional criminal charges, does the police still summon me to court?
-Is there any way I can find out if the store did or not?

-And if the store did file a criminal case, what's the point in me still having to pay the civil demand if i have to pay additional court fees etc, afterwards anyway, should i just wait for a court date, (if this is the case)?

4. If no criminal charges are filed there will be no criminal record. Now if the store is a subscriber to retail theft database your name will likely be inputted into system
Will this database effect my record? like if I apply for a job?, or does that just stay within the retail industry?
(It effects any job from a subscriber of this database)
-Do you know if most companies look at this particular retail database, isn't there more weight on an actual police record?

**I'll try to post as i get more information on my current situation. this thread is very helpful!**
 
1. The Civil demand has "nothing" to do with any pending criminal case. If you have a court date you "must" attend
I didn't receive any court date?
(Yet)
-SO IF I GET A COURT DATE AND PLEAD NOT GUILTY AND GET A PUBLIC DEFENDER, DO I THEN ASK FOR THE DIVERSION PROGRAM?....
-AND IF I GO TO THIS PROGRAM (that costs $80), do i still have to pay additional court fees?

Which Program? Court fees have little or nothing to do with program fees

2. Police were involved its likely the charges have been pressed. Do you have a court date?
That's what i was wondering, but the police officer didn't give me anything
(Still might come in mail)
-But if the store doesn't press any additional criminal charges, does the police still summon me to court?
-Is there any way I can find out if the store did or not?
-And if the store did file a criminal case, what's the point in me still having to pay the civil demand if i have to pay additional court fees etc, afterwards anyway, should i just wait for a court date, (if this is the case)?

If store called Police they likely filed charges. Far as civil demand and court go they are unrelated bu tnot paying can carry sever consequences



4. If no criminal charges are filed there will be no criminal record. Now if the store is a subscriber to retail theft database your name will likely be inputted into system
Will this database effect my record? like if I apply for a job?, or does that just stay within the retail industry?
(It effects any job from a subscriber of this database)
-Do you know if most companies look at this particular retail database, isn't there more weight on an actual police record?


If they subscribe to database they will use it
 
does the court charge you fees in addition to any diversion program? (if i already PAID the civil demand to the store)
 
As stated many many times Civil Demand and court fees (fines) have nothing to do with each other.

. Yes there will be court fines
. Yes the diversion program likely has a cost
 
You don't get it do you? Civil Demand and whatever happens in court are seperate issues both have to be dealt with! There are no "what ifs"!
 
Just great....as stated before a moments decision to do something seemingly petty is turning out to be a $400-$500 mistake. Definitely not worth the 4, $7.00 items! (totaling $28). A deterent in of itself.

Thanks for answering my birage of questioning, you were definitely helpful (my apologies if i wasn't getting the court fee thing). :blush
 
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