Shoplifting, Larceny, Robbery, Theft Fictitious Probates, Emails - What laws have been broken

[drowninginamess]

The following story is true as incredible as it may be.

I would like to emphasize that this story has been presented to a divorce attorney, and the local District Attorney office, the local PD and the State PD. I seem to be getting nowhere.

1) The divorce attorney only seems to be interested in handling the divorce at this point in time.

2) The district attorney office will not accept this case without a police report

3) The local and state PD agencies say this is a civil matter, they do not have grounds for an arrest.


This story began in 2008 as I met a woman on the Internet. She lived in the State of N and I lived in the state of I. She is originally from the State of T.

Before arriving to my state she claimed to have lost her father that was a wealthy oil man. Upon arriving she distributed a final will which turned out to be bogus however her explanation fooled me and a probate attorney.

We unfortunately married in February 2009 because she claimed to be pregnant and suffering from breast cancer. Both of those claims turned out not to be true as well.

During the latter of 2008 and first 3 months of 2009 I received quite a bit of email correspondence which allegedly were from an uncle who was assisting in the probate case. The emails turned out to be from her youngest son who was still in the state of N. I determined the origination of all email by reading the IP address in the full message header.

As I proceeded in my investigation of this matter I learned that this woman had at least 12 convictions for theft by check in her past in her home state of T. One of these convictions cost her 18 months in prison. She currently has a warrant for her arrest for identity theft in the state of N. However because of the dollar value involved in the identity theft case the state of N will not cross state lines to arrest her.

She has multiple aliases and at one point also changed her social security number, whether it was done legally, I have no idea.

She is now back in her home state of T. Her family is very embarrassed and ashamed at what she did. I am trying to seek financial restitution for some of the damage she has done.

Specifically what I would like to know what laws may have been broken by her and/or her youngest son with regards to conducting a fictitious probate and fake emails? As one police officer told me, "Its not against the law to be crazy".

Thank You

 

[CdwJava]

Not knowing the specific state you are in, it is hard to say. You may well have a good civil case against her for marriage under false pretenses, etc., but criminal charges would depend on whether or not she defrauded you out of money or property. Given that the police and the DA seem to be cool to your whole predicament, I am thinking you are left with a civil case. So, tally up your specific damages, hire an attorney, and sue her for what she cost you and, maybe, for the anguish you went through. However, if she has no money, then a civil suit is probably a huge waste of time.

Understand that not everything that is shady or wrong is criminal. So, if you want to see her go to jail, that just may not be possible here. And you have not articulated anything specifically criminal here, yet. She may be a liar and a cheat, but you have not said what she stole from you? Or how she did it?

 

[army judge]

All scams are not illegal.
All scams set traps for others.
The traps feed into the tendency of mist people to be greedy.
If people think it is something in it for them, they are inclined to be "conned".

It appears the traps were baited.
The mines were salted.
You took the bait, and allowed yourself to be trapped, is..."conned"!

This is most regrettable for you.
As most prosecutors are eager to charge and seek convictions, the ones near you must see something (or know something) you don't.

Frankly, unless you have sustained losses, I don't see a civil suit for you.

This boils down to a they said, versus a you said.

You might have her on a bigamy charge. It has been my experience that these creatures fail to divorce the prior victim, before marrying the new victim.

You might be smart to seek information about her prior marriages.

Find her marriages, uncover other victims, band together against her, she goes down!

I'm willing to bet, this ain't her first rodeo, and you aren't her first bucking bronc!




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[drowninginamess]

Sorry for the delay in responding. I have purposely avoided which specific states have been involved in this fictitious probate issue. I realize laws vary from state to state. My intent by posting here was to solicit suggestions as to where to turn next to get the ball rolling toward appropriate misdemeanor or felony charges as the case may be.

A divorce attorney has been retained and that is currently ongoing. Initially I mentioned annullment for being married under false pretenses but that is not applicable in my situation.

As for specific damages, there were many but I will only mention a few.

1) There was a promise for a birthday gift of a new vehicle and skybox passes for a professional sporting event. I was put in touch with a salesman at the dealership that was to handle the new car sale and was shown a sales contract. The sales contract was never signed and naturally the vehicle was never delivered. As for the skybox passes I was encourage to invite friends/family, I hired a limo but had to cancel plans 3 hours prior to the event when it was obvious the skybox passes were not going to be delivered as promised. What I could not cancel was the services of the limo. My loss for the day was less than 1,000.00 and I do have receipts.

2) I loaned money under the pretense that I was helping a son that was in school however the son was never in school, he was on probation and out of work and his mother/my wife knew it. I have been repaid a partial of what was loaned.

Whether or not she has the ability to repay all the damage she caused is not clear. Yes I have been told and have considered a civil suit.

What would be satisfactory is the ability to get some type of conviction on her for the total fictitious behavior she engaged in.

My only hope at this point of seeing her behind bars is the charge for identity theft she has to face next month.

I appreciate all input.

 

[CdwJava]

Sorry for the delay in responding. I have purposely avoided which specific states have been involved in this fictitious probate issue. I realize laws vary from state to state. My intent by posting here was to solicit suggestions as to where to turn next to get the ball rolling toward appropriate misdemeanor or felony charges as the case may be.

You cal the police. If you have been ripped off of money or if she forged a name to some official document, then maybe some fraud occurred. if she merely misled you and nothing overtly criminal can be identified, the police will tell you consult a civil attorney.

From what little you have described, I would not think that a crime ocurred. But, there could be details that you have omitted that could make some of her actions criminal. But, until you call the cops, you will not know.

Ultimately, I suspect that if this is anything, it will be a civil issue.

As for specific damages, there were many but I will only mention a few.

If my wife failed to follow through with some agreement, I would have no grounds for criminal charges against her. Can you see how she profited from these actions? If so, they might be civil, but I doubt criminal cases could be made.

The problem you will have with all of this is that you were married and the lies are likely to be seen as civil matters rather than criminal. I suspect the police will listen to all of this and shake their heads.

What would be satisfactory is the ability to get some type of conviction on her for the total fictitious behavior she engaged in.

That requires proof of criminal wrongdoing beyond a reasonable doubt. I di not know that you have that. A civil case requires only a preponderance of the evidence. It seems there is some strong evidence to show misrepresentation and potentially fraudulent activity, but I do not see that there is a strong case to show the intent necessary to sustain a criminal conviction. Perhaps when you speak to the cops they can figure something out.

My only hope at this point of seeing her behind bars is the charge for identity theft she has to face next month.

Is this a case that is separate from any actions you have taken?

 

[army judge]

Sorry for the delay in responding. I have purposely avoided which specific states have been involved in this fictitious probate issue. I realize laws vary from state to state. My intent by posting here was to solicit suggestions as to where to turn next to get the ball rolling toward appropriate misdemeanor or felony charges as the case may be.

A divorce attorney has been retained and that is currently ongoing. Initially I mentioned annullment for being married under false pretenses but that is not applicable in my situation.

As for specific damages, there were many but I will only mention a few.

1) There was a promise for a birthday gift of a new vehicle and skybox passes for a professional sporting event. I was put in touch with a salesman at the dealership that was to handle the new car sale and was shown a sales contract. The sales contract was never signed and naturally the vehicle was never delivered. As for the skybox passes I was encourage to invite friends/family, I hired a limo but had to cancel plans 3 hours prior to the event when it was obvious the skybox passes were not going to be delivered as promised. What I could not cancel was the services of the limo. My loss for the day was less than 1,000.00 and I do have receipts.

2) I loaned money under the pretense that I was helping a son that was in school however the son was never in school, he was on probation and out of work and his mother/my wife knew it. I have been repaid a partial of what was loaned.

Whether or not she has the ability to repay all the damage she caused is not clear. Yes I have been told and have considered a civil suit.

What would be satisfactory is the ability to get some type of conviction on her for the total fictitious behavior she engaged in.

My only hope at this point of seeing her behind bars is the charge for identity theft she has to face next month.

I appreciate all input.

Again, nothing has changed.
You're where you were last week.
She s tweed you financially.
She lied to you.
You were deceived.
She broke many promises to you.
You suffered great embarrassment and humiliation by relying on her promises.
I get it.
I regret it.
I'm sorry that you (or others) suffered at the hands if this she monster.
Nevertheless, you'll not prevail in a lawsuit seeking reimbursement for limousine expenses.

I hope she gets convicted on her pending criminal case.
I hope you can get your divorce and have all ties broken between you and this conniving creature.
At least you wised up before she took you for everything you possessed.



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[Ridson]

Or you can consult a good legal advisor As he will suggest you better