Forcing sale of whole property, only half of which is probate

ScratchingHead

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This is a complex question, and I am aware I need an attorney, but the will is not in force yet and I want to get an idea what to expect when it is:

Farm in OK owned 50% by mother and 50% by her nieces after her sister's death. The farm is willed equally to 6 beneficiaries, and I am the executor. There is another minor property, but it isn't salient to the question. Mother lives on the farm with the blessings of the other owners.

Youngest daughter has been dependent upon mother (I won't get into issues because I want to keep this a legal and not a moral discussion--but it is not because of any disability). She has, in turn, alienated and created animosity between herself and the other 5 beneficiaries, then announced that she will be living on the farm and taking mother's car after mother dies.

Although none of the beneficiaries plan to live on the farm, there are both relationship reasons and pragmatic reasons that the other 5 beneficiaries do not support this move, and this is where moral factors MAY come into account. The daughter is a long time alcohol and drug abuser and prostitute who had her children taken away from her because of her drug use and neglect. She notoriously does not pay her bills or take care of things. There is concern that, regarding the farm, she will not pay her share of property taxes, placing that burden on the other 5, and that she will conduct illegal activity on the property, such as drug distribution or prostitution, that puts it under risk of government confiscation. In regard to the car, she has no license, would not keep it insured, and when pulled over for any reason and the vehicle is impounded, would not be able to pay the impound fee to reclaim it.

Questions:

1. If we decide to force sale and the cousins do not want to sell, I assume I would have to file a separate partition request as a real estate ownership matter, because their share is not in probate. Is that assumption correct?

2. If we decide to force sale and the cousins AGREE to sell, does the fact that she has lived on the property at the time of death give her a legal position to block a sale and claim right to occupy?

3. Finally, if we decide to keep the property, what must be done legally to evict and prevent her from appropriating it for her own use? I want to clarify that she is so hostile toward others that if she is allowed occupancy, no other beneficiary would be able to use the property without considerable emotional pain.

4. I have also thought of the option of distributing the minor property and the car (without regard for her losing it or not) to her and splitting the half farm 5 ways to keep her off the deed, but I wouldn't feel like I was making a good faith equitable distribution if I did that, even though the values would be similar.
 
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This is a complex question, and I am aware I need an attorney, but the will is not in force yet and I want to get an idea what to expect when it is:

Farm in OK owned 50% by mother and 50% by her nieces after her sister's death. The farm is willed equally to 6 beneficiaries, and I am the executor. There is another minor property, but it isn't salient to the question. Mother lives on the farm with the blessings of the other owners.

Youngest daughter has been dependent upon mother (I won't get into issues because I want to keep this a legal and not a moral discussion--but it is not because of any disability). She has, in turn, alienated and created animosity between herself and the other 5 beneficiaries, then announced that she will be living on the farm and taking mother's car after mother dies.

Although none of the beneficiaries plan to live on the farm, there are both relationship reasons and pragmatic reasons that the other 5 beneficiaries do not support this move, and this is where moral factors MAY come into account. The daughter is a long time alcohol and drug abuser and prostitute who had her children taken away from her because of her drug use and neglect. She notoriously does not pay her bills or take care of things. There is concern that, regarding the farm, she will not pay her share of property taxes, placing that burden on the other 5, and that she will conduct illegal activity on the property, such as drug distribution or prostitution, that puts it under risk of government confiscation. In regard to the car, she has no license, would not keep it insured, and when pulled over for any reason and the vehicle is impounded, would not be able to pay the impound fee to reclaim it.

Questions:

1. If we decide to force sale and the cousins do not want to sell, I assume I would have to file a separate partition request as a real estate ownership matter, because their share is not in probate. Is that assumption correct?

2. If we decide to force sale and the cousins AGREE to sell, does the fact that she has lived on the property at the time of death give her a legal position to block a sale and claim right to occupy?

3. Finally, if we decide to keep the property, what must be done legally to evict and prevent her from appropriating it for her own use? I want to clarify that she is so hostile toward others that if she is allowed occupancy, no other beneficiary would be able to use the property without considerable emotional pain.

4. I have also thought of the option of distributing the minor property and the car (without regard for her losing it or not) to her and splitting the half farm 5 ways to keep her off the deed, but I wouldn't feel like I was making a good faith equitable distribution if I did that, even though the values would be similar.


Your questions aren't applicable YET, because the testator is still alive.
You aren't the executor, until the testator dies.
The will could be changed 100 times before the testator dies.
You could predecease the testator, eliminating your ability to perform your duties as executor.

My responses, therefore, are general in nature and should be be construed as legal advice; although I am an attorney, I'm not your attorney and I am unlicensed in Oklahoma.

If two or more people own property, any one of the owners can move to partition the property and the proceeds divided among the owners.
A partition action precludes any owner from barring the sale, if the court so orders said sale.
That doesn't mean that one or more owners can't DELAY the sale by availing themselves of all due process righst accorded to litigants in civil matters.
If six people own property, five can't evict the remaining owner.
They can offer to buy out the owner.
This is the main reason property is often partitioned, owners can't agree.

I suggest you DISMISS any thoughts you may be pondering in question four!!!!
 
You are correct that things could possibly change. I am trying to analyze the situation as it stands so I have an idea how to proceed if it doesn't change. The testator is near death and it is very unlikely that the will itself will change.

So for clarity's sake, would the partition be a separate case from the probate as only 50% ownership is in probate, or would the probate court handle that as well?

I agree with you on #4, which is why I stated that I wouldn't be comfortable with the idea.
 
You are correct that things could possibly change. I am trying to analyze the situation as it stands so I have an idea how to proceed if it doesn't change. The testator is near death and it is very unlikely that the will itself will change.

So for clarity's sake, would the partition be a separate case from the probate as only 50% ownership is in probate, or would the probate court handle that as well?

I agree with you on #4, which is why I stated that I wouldn't be comfortable with the idea.

I urge you to consult an attorney.
There are many wills that aren't even required to be probated in your state and in other states.
Your best bet is to consider all of your options AFTER the death and burial of the testator.
Your consideration of these matters is a bot premature, if not unsettling, as its premature.
Don't rely on FREE information you discover off the internet to execute your duties as executor.
You might also wait to discuss this will all of the heirs at some date after the demise of the testator.
I'm sure one or two, maybe all will find this most troubling.

You can Google many sites that offer information about the duties of an executor of a will in OK. Here are a couple:

http://info.legalzoom.com/wills-probated-oklahoma-3861.html

http://estate.findlaw.com/estate-administration/what-does-an-executor-do.html
 
I appreciate the advice. Of course I am going to engage an attorney when the time comes, and all beneficiaries will have a voice, including the daughter. I just want to get a feel for the dimensions that are involved in a situation like this. I don't believe anyone would find this troubling, as this has been under discussion for some time. I just wanted to do some homework before the situation comes up.
 
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