Shoplifting, Larceny, Robbery, Theft HELP! What can I do?

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jameslee730

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Okay, so my sister in law and I went shopping together at the Mall out of town. We're from Wisconsin but was caught in Minnesota. They wanted to stop for a bite and some shopping. We went into a store with a cart from another store because it was a stoler as well for her baby. We go inside the store with her husband and baby. We make our way to the baby section, she picks out about ten blankets and some baby clothes, and I picked three(I am expecting). My husband is there as well but is doing homework by the foodcourt. We walked around the store, they mainly walked together but I stayed close as well. We went to the jewerly section, I didn't see her pick out the jewerly but noticed them in the cart afterwards. We then went to the women's section, I picked out two shirts to try on and she just randomly picked somethings out along with a jacket. We went into the fitting rooms together and she asked if I would go into the same one as her to watch her baby as she tries on her things. I agreed. I noticed her putting the baby blankets into her bags and cart and ripping off the tags off the items. I couldn't say anything because I noticed there was a woman following us as well as when we went into the fittingroom. I just watched her baby and just tried really hard to get out of there. She took everything except a few items and we walked out of the fittingroom. She asked me to throw away the tags, I didn't know what to say. I just did it because I really wanted to get out of there. I have never committed a crime befored or was ever with a person that did. I don't think the woman following us saw me throwing the tags away but saw the sister in law throw the boxes for her jewerly and other tags away. We walked out of the store and the woman stopped us, we walked back with her but she said she didn't need me and I asked if I could take the baby to its' father, she agreed. We go and round up my husband, take the car over to the section of the store where the sister in law was caught and waited to see if she would call. We get a call twenty minutes later that they needed me to go inside? I didn't know what to do, but I went inside because I knew she wouldn't be freed unless I went in. I went in with her baby and husband. They questioned her about the car we were driving, she told them it was black but it was green(which I told the police the correct color, and that the jacket she had on the cart was hers but I told them the truth that I saw her take it to the fittingroom and belonged to the store). I told them everything because I thought she did the same. I didn't take no part in anything, no conspriacy or intent to steal. I was scared as heck and just wanted to get out of there as fast as I can and go home! I admitted to the cop that I threw some of the tags away because was asked by the sister in law and saw her take the items but was too scared to do anything. They are trying to charge her with gross misdenmeanor of theft and are trying the same with me! I don't know what to do! I did not want part of anything, I told the cop the truth, I never intented with those actions and never wanted part with them. I cannot have this on my record! I did some researching and learned of diversion programs that would conceal it from my records but I really don't know what to do in my situation. I thought telling the truth was the right thing to do!? Was I wrong?

We did not get arrested, a courtdate will be mailed to us to appear to court. My fear is what should I do? Should I plea gulity or not? I don't want any charges on my record because of my schooling and the major that I am going into. This will really hurt my future and I am expecting! I can't sleep or eat or do anything but think about this!! Please help me! Anything at all that would help!! I know I should talk to a lawyer but I don't know where to start or how to! I've never been in trouble. The sister in law admitted to the cops that she has stolen befored from other stores and that this was not her first! The merchandises were worth $613!! I couldn't believed it!! What am I to do??!! Please help!! This is my third child, my first two resulted in miscarriages from stress, we have been trying to get pregnant for four years after our miscarriages! I want a good life for my unborned child and I'm only 20! I've married young, yes I know but I'm in college and is planning my whole life with my child and husband and cannot at all have this on my record. Please, please please!
 
You had knowledge of the theft and you particpated this makes you an equal partner in the crime which is why you were charged as well. You need to talk to a Lawyer about your defense plans. Discuss with this Attorney Diversion as possible option to protect your record. $600.00 is a lot an din some states a felony. Start calling Lawyers many offer free consultations. You can also enroll in an Anti Shoplifting course before court to show Judge remorse this is almost always a good thing and never a bad thing. I generally recommend the shoplifting prevention course given by the NASP.
 
I'm aware of the situation that they are trying to charge me because I was aware of what she was doing and did not try to stop her. And yes, I can't believe it either, $600??!! It was baby blankets, jewerly, and a jacket!! I already took a look at the prevention website that you gave me, I reviewed it on the other posts. I also reviewed the state laws for Minnesota and if diversion programs were an option in their county and luckily it is. They're trying to charge gross misdemeanor on both of us. She's is only seventeen so, is under the impression that her records is wiped once she turns eighteen so doesn't really care about her record. Which I know is false in some cases. I really just want to focus on mine since my future isn't in her intentions. I'm suppose to get a letter regarding my courtdate. What do I do there? Do I plea not gulity and then ask for a defense attorney? I'm still in school and not working, so I cannot afford a private attorney. I read up on the fines, charges, probation, resitution, and other things that I might have to pay. This is really out of my league. What are your suggestions about what I should do about my approach other than the things I already reviewed and know I must discuss with the defense attorney? Do you think I might get a chance at granted for diversion?
 
For your friend" Your right her records dont disappear once shes an adult. Tell her to come here as well and we can help.

Now for you. You need to arm yourself with info. More so than you have already done with I applaud your efforts. Start calling Attorneys and see which ones offer free office visits. Take each up that do! Then when you go to court you can either have the Attorney you hire with you or at least info. Then plead "not guilty" or "I stand mute" then request a Public Defender. The Judge will instruct you from there and give you new court date. Tell the Public defender your desire to seek Diversion.
 
By the way. My research shows the felony level at $250.00 which your case far exceeds. It seems odd your charge is misdemeanor unless Minnesota has changed the law it seems odd your charge is misdemeanor
 
wow..that's hard situation esp if u are in the middle....anyways lesson learn....plus NEVER admit anything unless u have a lawyer nxt to u...they cannot force u to speak...by law u have the right to remain silent and u are still innocent until proven guilty by law. any how it already happen....my advice maybe ask ur sister inlaw if she could back u up...by her getting ALL the blame..tell her to say the truth that ur innocent...$600+ is a felony(not sure in ur state) in CA it is.

u mention its ur 1st time....so don't stress out(remember u are preggy...congrats by the way) usually 1st offense charges are less...maybe community service, probation and ofcourse the store fine....not sure how much they will charge u.....

anyways just pray to god...he does listen....good luck and god bless u.
 
scotch: I know you mean well but your off on this one.

1. Shes not innocent she had knowledge of the event and particpated no statement by other party is going to change that.

2. You seem assume Miranda applied here it did not. Yes she was free not give a statement but she did not have option to not talk without a Lawyer present. Miranda applies when under custodial arrest by Law Enforcement
 
scotch said:
wow..that's hard situation esp if u are in the middle....anyways lesson learn....plus NEVER admit anything unless u have a lawyer nxt to u...they cannot force u to speak...by law u have the right to remain silent and u are still innocent until proven guilty by law. any how it already happen....my advice maybe ask ur sister inlaw if she could back u up...by her getting ALL the blame..tell her to say the truth that ur innocent...$600+ is a felony(not sure in ur state) in CA it is.

u mention its ur 1st time....so don't stress out(remember u are preggy...congrats by the way) usually 1st offense charges are less...maybe community service, probation and ofcourse the store fine....not sure how much they will charge u.....

anyways just pray to god...he does listen....good luck and god bless u.


Got to love armchair lawyers/preachers.

#1 she is not innocent, she knew what was going on, and participated.
#2 You're right, they can't force her to speak, but when she gets to court, the video will do all the speaking.
#3 Its not "U" its "YOU"
Its not "UR" it "YOU'RE' "YOUR" or "YOU ARE"
Also punctuation and capital letters are your friend.
 
Sorry, it took me a while to reponse back. Yes, I think Minnesota did change their laws. I believed it's over $1000 to be considered a felony. It's been a while but I still have not recieved my court notice yet but I did recieved the civil demand and had worked out a payment plan with them. It's a big one, just as I had expected. My sister in law, on ther other hand, did already recieved her court notice and is to appear either by phone if she pleads gulity on the 25th of Jan. or make an apperance if she wants to plead not gulity. She's a juvenile so is already directed with a public attorney but she's not taking any actions and I believe is not intending on paying the civil demand anytime soon. She believes all things will go away if ignored for a certain period of time. I, on the other hand, cannot stand the wait of what is going to happen to me. So careless and stupid to react to pressure and stupidty. Needless to say, I learned a big lesson and strayed far away from her habits. I tried looking up any pending charges on me on the Wisconsin Circuit Court system but nothing came up and then tried it as well on the Minnesota court system but still nothing. I really hate the frame of waiting. It really kills because I feel like it's such a burden, just waiting for that letter and for the next step to progress but it's not. I have learned a big big lesson in all of this. But I still have a question, am I able to appoint a public defender even befored I get my court notice? I've read up on it and some say it's possible but I'm not able to locate on the county site at all. The county which this is all taking place is Olmsted County. Any hints or suggestions? Because I know that you have to applied for the diversion program and there is a certain time frame that it has to be done in, am I right or wrong? Everyone is greatly appreciated for reading and commenting! Thank you all so much, especially Admin.
 
You might tell your freind (since she is a minor) she put her parents in a nasty place by not paying civil demand. Now for you no, you cannot get a Pubic Defender until charged. Since you have no court date yet it appears for now you have yet to be charged. What you can do if you like is consult Attorneys. Many offer free consultations. During these consultations you can ask all the important questions you have. Once you do that you will have important knowledge before meeting with Public Defender
 
jameslee730 said:
She's a juvenile so is already directed with a public attorney but she's not taking any actions and I believe is not intending on paying the civil demand anytime soon. She believes all things will go away if ignored for a certain period of time.

Boy is she wrong.

Since she is a juvenile, her parents are responsible for the civil demand. If she decides not to pay, the store can sue her parents not only for the amount owed, but lawyer costs and court fees, they're looking at several thousand dollars in fines. The lawyers will then attach to their bank accounts and garnish their wages if need be.
A bad mess for her parents. Might want to let her know this so she can at LEAST warn her parents to expect it.
 
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