Shoplifting, Larceny, Robbery, Theft How To Plea- First Time Offense, Want Dropped

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ItWasWrong

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I know that what I did was wrong, I feel really bad about it, so please don't lecture me.

This happened in Wisconsin:

I was caught at a big chain store for about $75 worth of product. I am 19 years old and this is the first time that I have ever done anything like this. I have a clean record, no traffic violations or anything etc. When I was caught, the Loss Prevention lady stopped me at the door by slamming my cart into my stomach. I am pregnant ( I was about 7 weeks pregnant at the time). I was not running or anything. She also yelled really loud in front of everyone and humiliated me in front of everyone. I do not think that any of this was necessary. Then when we got to the office, she asked me to remove the items from my bag. I said that I didn't have to because of my Constitutional rights. She replied with, "I know what your rights are and I know how to get around them." When they called the police, they said that I was being uncooperative. I wasn't trying to be like that at all. I just didn't feel like it was her right to search through my personal belongs. When the cop got there he asked if he could look through my bag to make sure that I didn't have any weapons. He also told me that if I didn't remove the items from my bag, that he would cuff me and take me down to the station, wait for the security footage, and then the same thing would happen. I decided that it was all a waste of time and I told him he could search my bag for weapons. He then obviously found the products. I was issued a citation and I have the option to appear in court. I KNOW that I am guilty. But how do I plea so that I can try to get it taken off my record? I am a good person. I have spent numerous hours, volunteering my time to charities, hospitals etc, I am also part of several respectable organizations, and I am a straight A student. Will any of those things help me? If I plea guilty, will the judge still listen to me? Or is it an automatic thing: fine and permanent record? What do I need to plea so that he will listen to me? I am willing to do community service, take classes, etc. I just don't want it on my record. As I said, I am pregnant. I was just starting a new life with my husband. And now I just really messed up. I just need a second chance. But how am I to do that if I can't get a job because of my "criminal background??" All of this is stressing me out big time. And I am already a high risk pregnancy. I really don't need this....Ugh! I feel so stupid for doing this!

Also, I received a letter from some law firm in New York. They said that I have to pay them $200. They apparently called my mom's house (which I haven't lived at in about 6 months), and they also referred to me on the message machine by my maiden name. When the cop took my information, he got MY cell phone number, MY address, MY new name etc. So then I called the company and they didn't even have the right address on file. They knew that I shoplifted from this particular store though, and they knew the date. But they got all of their stuff back, and it was $75 worth of stuff- not $200!? Is this a scam, or legit?

Bottom line: How do I plea to try to get the charges dropped?
 
It legit its called Civil Demand and its 100% legal and state law. Far as plea goes you need to consult an Attorney (several is better) ask them about your options like diversion to keep your record clean.
 
There is no way that I can afford an attorney. But I read that I could say this (from another post on this site):

"Your Honor i would like to not enter a plea at this time and request a public defender"

Can I say this in Wisconsin? Will that buy me more time? My court date is tomorrow and I really don't know what to do...
 
Also, I read somewhere else that I could just go through with all of this, and then just try to expunge it later. Is there a chance that I will be able to get it taken off my record by completing all demands and then completing this form?:

http://www.wicourts.gov/forms1/circuit/ ... ber=CR-266

Also, would it even pay to mention how I was treated unfairly (i.e. the cart being pushed into me and the humiliating scene) or is that a completely different issue and the judge just frankly won't care?
 
ItWasWrong said:
There is no way that I can afford an attorney. But I read that I could say this (from another post on this site):

"Your Honor i would like to not enter a plea at this time and request a public defender"

Can I say this in Wisconsin? Will that buy me more time? My court date is tomorrow and I really don't know what to do...


Yes but it does not stop you from consulting Attorneys
 
ItWasWrong said:
Also, I read somewhere else that I could just go through with all of this, and then just try to expunge it later. Is there a chance that I will be able to get it taken off my record by completing all demands and then completing this form?:

http://www.wicourts.gov/forms1/circuit/ ... ber=CR-266

Also, would it even pay to mention how I was treated unfairly (i.e. the cart being pushed into me and the humiliating scene) or is that a completely different issue and the judge just frankly won't care?


In order to "expunge" your record a period of about 7 years must pass. Do you want a criminal record for 7 years? diversion is your bvest option. How you were treated does not remove your guilt. Besides the arugement can be made your behavior added to problem
 
My behavior? I didn't do anything to her. I wasn't running, I wasn't yelling, I wasn't making a scene. That was the LP lady. The only time it may have been considered that I had "behavior" was when I wouldn't let her look through my bag. But the cop ended up doing it anyhow, which is fine. Because I really did not trust that lady, whereas, I felt okay trusting the cop to protect my rights.

Is this an issue that I should take up with Store's corporate? As I said, I do not believe that there was any reason for her to push the cart into me. I was walking at a normal pace and she ran in front of the cart and pushed it into me to stop me. She didn't even give me a chance to stop walking before she pushed the cart. She was also (I felt) somewhat verbally abusive to me in the LP office. She said things like, "Let me guess, you live in a trailer court?" I was really offended. She meant it to be offensive, by her tone too. I have, in fact, lived in trailers before and quite frankly, there's nothing wrong with that. She just grouped me into that group based on her stereotypes of residents of trailer courts, assuming that they are all thieves. There wasn't even anything indicating that I lived in a trailer for part of my life. I dress nice, hair groomed well, etc. She also made the comment that I was too young to be married. I don't think that's her business. So again, should I take this up with corporate??
 
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