Francey Hakes to Newsmax: Abrego Garcia Received "Due Process"

[army judge]

Abrego Garcia, admitted gang member, infamous prevaricator, adjudicated US BORDER BURGLAR/INVADER, DEPORTEE, exiled to prison in El Salvador

Former federal prosecutor Francey Hakes told Newsmax on Tuesday that liberals' insistence that an illegal immigrant from El Salvador living in Maryland didn't receive due process is a "complete lie."

Hakes joined "The Record With Greta Van Susteren" to wade into the "complicated case" of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who was sent to a maximum security prison in El Salvador by the Trump administration.

The White House asserts that he is a member of the criminal gang MS-13, which President Donald Trump has designated a foreign terrorist organization.

"I mean, the first thing to remember is that he is in the country illegally. And if you have crossed the border illegally, you are deportable by definition," Hakes said, noting that that alone didn't land Abrego Garcia in Centro de Confinamiento del Terrorismo (Terrorism Confinement Center), a maximum security prison in El Salvador.

It's what followed — that he admitted being a gang member, she said.

"When he was arrested or picked up in 2019, he had an immigration hearing. Lots of people are yelling online and on television that he hasn't received any due process. And that is a complete lie, because he did get the due process to which illegal aliens are entitled," Hakes said. "And at that hearing, the judge found that the evidence presented by DHS was credible, that he was a member of MS-13, which also made him deportable.

"Now, after that, he got an appeal. So that's the second bit of due process that he got. He got appellate level … judge panel to look at his case and to agree with the initial federal judge who found that he was deportable," Hakes added, setting up Abrego Garcia's biggest problem.

"Now, when he went to court, the judge, however, had some sympathy for his claim that if he were sent back to El Salvador, he might face violence from a rival gang. Now, what I've read, Greta, suggests that what that means is, if he was worried about violence from a rival gang in El Salvador, that he's effectively admitting he's part of a gang himself," Hakes said.

"And now that President Trump has designated MS-13 a foreign terrorist organization, he's no longer entitled to that withholding of the deportation that a judge in some sympathy gave him in 2019 because he was no longer entitled to claim asylum," she added.

Hakes also pushed back on the assertion that Abrego Garcia hasn't been convicted of a crime. That's irrelevant, she said.

"I think what people miss about being in a gang, because they say that he was never convicted of an actual crime, is they forget the policies around conspiracy," Hakes said, likening gang membership to belonging to the mafia.

"Every member of the gang is a member of a criminal conspiracy. And without every member, the gang doesn't succeed. And that is why membership in these gangs represents a clear and present danger to this country and our citizens," she said.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/francey-hakes-kilmar-abrego-garcia-due-process/2025/04/15/id/1207054/

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[Tax Counsel]

It's hard for me to extend much sympathy to a member of MS-13. MS-13 is very violent criminal organization that unfortunately terrorized and torn down systems in El Salvador that the citizens there really need. El Salvador could be thriving more with these leeches sucking up so much of the money in that country. Every one present in this country deserves due process, even MS 13 members, but due process does not mean endless process. Assuming what the article said is accurate he's been given due process and America is a bit safer with one less MS-13 member.

 

[Redemptionman]

How are non citizens and illegal invaders allowed due process? Send them back they don't get any constitutional rights because they are illegals to begin with.

I am not a supporter of tariffs and crashing the stock market nor a fan of firing a bunch of federal middle class workers but I do agree with Trump on this issue.

 

[Tax Counsel]

How are non citizens and illegal invaders allowed due process?

Because the Constitution protects everyone in the U.S. There is no provision in the Constitution that states the rights we have are conditioned on being citizens. Once we start excluding groups from the rights we have under the Constitution it'll make it easier to the next group, and then the next, and eventually you find out you don't have any rights under the Constitution either.

The U.S. may however, turn away aliens at the border who don't have permission to be in the country. No court hearing or other elements of ordinary due process apply in that circumstance. Providing CBP and ICE a lot more resources would enable them to find an turn away a lot more aliens than they do today. Is the American public willing to pay that cost?

 

[Redemptionman]

Because the Constitution protects everyone in the U.S. There is no provision in the Constitution that states the rights we have are conditioned on being citizens. Once we start excluding groups from the rights we have under the Constitution it'll make it easier to the next group, and then the next, and eventually you find out you don't have any rights under the Constitution either.

The U.S. may however, turn away aliens at the border who don't have permission to be in the country. No court hearing or other elements of ordinary due process apply in that circumstance. Providing CBP and ICE a lot more resources would enable them to find an turn away a lot more aliens than they do today. Is the American public willing to pay that cost?

Is states a person can not be deprived, just because the Supreme say they are people does not make it so. They are not people, they are invaders, criminal aliens who have used a democrat open border policy to come into the USA to steal from its resources while not adding any value to the country. Trump is rounding up the illegal MS13 members/ cartel vermin who have been dealing in everything and anything. Don't drive a full size pick up to Mexico, you will end up dead and your truck recommissioned as a cartel workhorse.

 

[Tax Counsel]

They are not people,

As many dictators have demonstrated dehumanizing a group of people is the first step to mistreating and abusing them, and in some regimes, killing them. There are good people, bad people, smart people, dumb people, etc but they all have one thing in common: they are all people.

 

[cbg]

Assuming what the article said is accurate he's been given due process and America is a bit safer with one less MS-13 member.

Asking, not arguing. Has it been determined whether he is, in fact, an MS-13 (or any other gang) member? For fact and not via rumor?

 

[army judge]

Asking, not arguing. Has it been determined whether he is, in fact, an MS-13 (or any other gang) member? For fact and not via rumor?

Yes, he's ADMITTED to being a member of MS13 terrorists!

THE REAL STORY: Kilmar Abrego Garcia is an MS-13 Gang member with a History of Violence

Release Date: April 16, 2025

"We hear far too much in the mainstream media about sob stories of gang members and criminal illegals and not enough about their victims." - Secretary Noem ​

WASHINGTON – The mainstream media has peddled a sob story about Kilmar Abrego Garcia. The facts are he is an illegal alien from El Salvador, a MS-13 gang member, and has a history of violence.

FAST FACTS:

1. When Garcia was arrested, he was found with rolls of cash and drugs.


2. He was arrested with two other members of MS-13.


3. When arrested, he was wearing a sweatshirt with rolls of money covering the ears, mouth, and eyes of presidents on various currency denominations. This is a known MS-13 gang symbol of see no evil, hear no evil, say no evil.


4. Two judges found that he was a member of MS-13. That finding has not been disputed.


5. Intelligence reports found that he was involved in human trafficking.


6. He is an illegal alien from El Salvador.


7. He claimed fear of being returned to El Salvador because he would be persecuted by MS-13's rival gang, Barrio-18.


8. Jennifer Vasquez, Garcia's wife, petitioned for an order of protection against him. She claimed he punched her, scratched her, and ripped off her shirt, and bruised her.


BOTTOM LINE: Kilmar Abrego Garcia is a violent criminal illegal alien and MS-13 gang member. He belongs behind bars and off American soil.

Kilmar Abrego Garcia is an MS-13 Gang member with a History of Violence | Homeland Security

The mainstream media has peddled a sob story about Kilmar Abrego Garcia. The facts are he is an illegal alien from El Salvador, a MS-13 gang member, and has a history of violence.

www.dhs.gov

 

[army judge]

The Trump administration has released a series of documents that revealed new details in the case of Kilmar Abrego Garcia after weeks of pressure to prove its contention that he was a member of the MS-13 gang, leading to his deportation last month to a notorious mega-prison in El Salvador. A government lawyer previously called his deportation an "administrative error," and the Supreme Court has ordered the Trump administration to "facilitate" his release from the prison.

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The Department of Justice shared the records, not previously made public, detailing Abrego Garcia's 2019 arrest. He had no criminal history at the time, which the documents also state, and his attorneys have denied that he is a gang member.

Among the information in the documents:

→ Officers with the Prince George's County Police Department said in a document titled "gang field interview sheet" that Abrego Garcia was wearing "a Chicago Bulls hat and hoodie with rolls of money covering the eyes, ears and mouth of the presidents" on the bills. The officers said such insignia was "indicative of Hispanic gang culture."

→ The officers also said they consulted with a reliable confidential source who said Abrego Garcia was part of MS-13. In another document from the DOJ's Executive Office of Immigration Review, a court wrote that the allegation that he is a gang member "appears to be trustworthy."

→ A document from the Department of Homeland Security said Abrego Garcia was one of two men who had been previously detained for a murder investigation. Abrego Garcia denied being connected to a murder investigation, the documents state, and was never charged.

Meanwhile, the Trump administration yesterday filed an appeal of U.S. District Judge Paula Xinis' order directing the government to "take all available steps to facilitate" Abrego Garcia's return "as soon as possible." Also, El Salvador Vice President Félix Ulloa met with Sen. Chris Van Hollen and rejected the Maryland senator's requests to meet in-person with Abrego Garcia and facilitate a phone call between Abrego Garcia and his family.

New documents in Kilmar Abrego Garcia case and Trump's Golden Dome ambitions: Morning Rundown

The Trump administration released documents after weeks of pressure to prove its contention that the man mistakenly deported to El Salvador is an MS-13 gang member.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[army judge]

As many dictators have demonstrated dehumanizing a group of people is the first step to mistreating and abusing them, and in some regimes, killing them.

In this regime, USA, many people living in Africa were kidnapped, forced onto crowded ships, to begin their new lives as slaves for their captors, plantation owners in the southern USA.

Wealthy whites tried to use the FREE, forced laborers, however, the cold, northern winters disagreed with most enslaved Africans.

The United States of America alleges we've never been headed by a dictator.

The inaugural president of the United States, George Washington, began his first term on April 30, 1789, the day of his first inauguration, and ended on March 4, 1797.

Washington took office after he was elected unanimously by the Electoral College in the 1788–1789 presidential election, the nation's first quadrennial presidential election.

Washington was re-elected unanimously in 1792 and chose to retire after two terms. He was succeeded by his vice president, John Adams of the Federalist Party.

The arrival of the first captives to the Jamestown Colony, in 1619, is often seen as the beginning of slavery in America—but enslaved Africans arrived in North America as early as the 1500s.​

In late August 1619, the White Lion, an English privateer commanded by John Jope, sailed into Point Comfort and dropped anchor in the James River. Virginia colonist John Rolfe documented the arrival of the ship and "20 and odd" Africans on board. His journal entry is immortalized in textbooks, with 1619 often used as a reference point for teaching the origins of slavery in America. But the history, it seems, is far more complicated than a single date.

It is believed the first Africans brought to the colony of Virginia, 400 years ago this month, were Kimbundu-speaking peoples from the kingdom of Ndongo, located in part of present-day Angola. Slave traders forced the captives to march several hundred miles to the coast to board the San Juan Bautista, one of at least 36 transatlantic Portuguese and Spanish slave ships.

The ship embarked with about 350 Africans on board, but hunger and disease took a swift toll. En route, about 150 captives died. Then, when the San Juan Bautista approached what is now Veracruz, Mexico in the summer of 1619, it encountered two ships, the White Lion and another English privateer, the Treasurer. The crews stormed the vulnerable slave ship and seized 50 to 60 of the remaining Africans. After, the pair sailed for Virginia.

As noted by Rolfe, when the White Lion arrived in what is now present-day Hampton, Virginia, the Africans were offloaded and "bought for victuals." Governor Sir George Yeardley and head merchant Abraham Piersey acquired the majority of the captives, most of whom were kept in Jamestown, America's first permanent English settlement.

 

[welkin]

Justices will hear arguments on Trump's effort to end birthright citizenship

Justices will hear arguments on Trump's effort to end birthright citizenship - SCOTUSblog

The Supreme Court will hear oral arguments on May 15 on the federal government's request to be allowed to implement President Donald Trump's executive order ending birthright citizenship – the guarantee of citizenship to almost everyone born in the United States, which dates back to the post-Civil War era.

 

[army judge]

Justices will hear arguments on Trump's effort to end birthright citizenship

Justices will hear arguments on Trump's effort to end birthright citizenship - SCOTUSblog

The ruling will send shockwaves across our 50 states and her territories.

Slavery was outlawed upon cessation of our Civil War hostilities. Birthright citizenship was intended to ensure the offspring of former slaves and slaves themselves received US citizenship.

It was never intended to grant citizenship to the offspring of Border Burglars and despicable individuals who under the guise of tourists, visited the US to receive free birthing expenses and follow up healthcare for their bun(s) in the oven, which somehow allowed the interlopers to reside on US turf.

 

[Redemptionman]

The ruling will send shockwaves across our 50 states and her territories.

Slavery was outlawed upon cessation of our Civil War hostilities. Birthright citizenship was intended to ensure the offspring of former slaves and slaves themselves received US citizenship.

It was never intended to grant citizenship to the offspring of Border Burglars and despicable individuals who under the guise of tourists, visited the US to receive free birthing expenses and follow up healthcare for their bun(s) in the oven, which somehow allowed the interlopers to reside on US turf.

It is not just southern border burglars who take advantage of birth right citizenship. China has been sending its pregnant women here for years to get birth right citizenship. Trump is showing his true colors as that of an infant toddler who doesn't get his way. I actually agree with him on some things and disagree on others.

His intentions may be good on this tariff thing, I am not sure. However, the supply chain is filled with lots of various industries with various components. If this was America from the 40s, 50, and early 60s then we would win this trade war. Today America can not survive this and could lead to another great depression.

 

[welkin]

Today America can not survive this and could lead to another great depression.

You underestimate what the US can do when called upon. How long did it take the US industrial complex to gear up after Japan bombed Pearl Harbor? Do you know?

The U.S. industrial complex rapidly mobilized after the attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, with significant changes occurring within months. By 1942, factories were producing vast amounts of military equipment, and the economy was fully converted to wartime production by 1943.

Trump is showing his true colors as that of an infant toddler who doesn't get his way.

You'll have to explain how challenging the birthright citizenship makes Trump an infant toddler.

 

[Redemptionman]

Like I said this is not the 40s, 50s, or early 60s. You notice that Trump dumped his tariff on certain electronics due to what it would do to Apple. China's BYD which is the best battery tech globally in the world is not sold here due to the fact it would probably put all of US auto makers out of business with the exception of Ford. It will not happen, America is not in a position to win this trade war these days unless you want to set the industry back 40 years or so.

You can not have historically given other countries our manufacturing resources then wave a magic pen and get them back. He might can get some concessions but with this tanking the stock market and 401ks. Trump is guaranteeing another democrat will be President in 2029. Trump thinks of himself in higher regard than his electorate. If you want to reference all the resistance movements going on through out the country. Trump thinks he can bully the fed chairman to magically lower interest rates by this then he is out of his mind.

Hyperinflation and larger price hikes will be the result of them printing unlimited money without nothing to back it. Jerome Powell knows what he is doing, Trump a failed bankrupt politician and a lame duck term limited President does not.

 

[Tax Counsel]

It was never intended to grant citizenship to the offspring of Border Burglars and despicable individuals who under the guise of tourists, visited the US to receive free birthing expenses and follow up healthcare for their bun(s) in the oven, which somehow allowed the interlopers to reside on US turf.

That then presents a conundrum for those justices who claim to be textualists and rely only the language of the statute or constitution rather than pulling in other sources to justify what those words mean today. IMO the language is very clear and not at all ambiguous: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

If the justices apply the 14th amendment as written then the outcome should not be in doubt: being born on U.S. soil makes one a citizen regardless of the citizenship of that person's parents citizenship. The amendment makes no mention of anything that would qualify birthrigh citizenship in any way. Not a single whisper alluding to the person's parentage, how long the parents had been present in the U.S. or any other factor that today we might like to apply to restrict that right. If we want to change that then IMO we must amend the constitution to do it.

It would be the height of hypocrisy for those conservatives on the court who say they apply the words as written when the language is very clear to now do what they have long accused the liberals of doing: bringing in a number of factors to justify modernizing the law to the way they think it should be rather than what it actually says. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. If relying only on the text of the law in question is how one says the constitution is to be interpreted then they must apply that doctrine not only to outcomes the they favor but also to outcomes they do not like.

 

[welkin]

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

The question that needs to be answered is, are people here in the country illegally subject the jurisdiction of the United States?

The amendment makes no mention of anything that would qualify birthrigh citizenship in any way.

Then I suggest you read the amendment again.

 

[adjusterjack]

The question that needs to be answered is, are people here in the country illegally subject the jurisdiction of the United States?

The CHILDREN who were BORN IN THE US are NOT in the US illegally.

Are you not getting what BORN IN THE US means?

The CHILDREN did nothing wrong.

They should not be punished by losing their citizenship.