Video in public and posting to YouTube.

OceanSun

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For some reason, every now and then, I'll have one of those First Amendment Auditor videos come up on YouTube. Not really my normal cup of tea, but sometimes I'm bored enough. Side note for those who aren't familiar, these are people who go out in public, and start video recording while standing on the sidewalk. They are fully legal to do so, as long as they aren't harassing people, etc. But there's almost always someone who says "You can't record me without my permission" which out in public like that, is not true.

But, there's something that has occurred to me. I've done professional videography before, and if I'm going to record someone for the purpose of making money, I do have to have a signed release. Now, these auditors usually have a YouTube channel, and if the video is monetized, wouldn't that mean the person could sue once the video is posted?
 
For some reason, every now and then, I'll have one of those First Amendment Auditor videos come up on YouTube. Not really my normal cup of tea, but sometimes I'm bored enough. Side note for those who aren't familiar, these are people who go out in public, and start video recording while standing on the sidewalk. They are fully legal to do so, as long as they aren't harassing people, etc. But there's almost always someone who says "You can't record me without my permission" which out in public like that, is not true.

But, there's something that has occurred to me. I've done professional videography before, and if I'm going to record someone for the purpose of making money, I do have to have a signed release. Now, these auditors usually have a YouTube channel, and if the video is monetized, wouldn't that mean the person could sue once the video is posted?

For those of you who don't know what these "First Amendment Auditor" videos are, see below. The ease and low cost of digital video an dissemination has created a disconcerting situation that the founders of our constitution likely did not foresee.


When the motive and intent for recording a video is public display and revenue generation, you would want a signed consent form to protect you from being sued later. Once an arrest takes place or a lawsuit is filed, you'll need to pay for a defense, with settlement often being a more affordable solution than proving your protected right to record and include another person in your video. For example, this particular auditor has a GoFundMe account to help him with an arrest.


Not all YouTube channels are monetized. But if the "First Amendment Auditor" is monetizing their channel, their activities have arguably crossed the line towards non-protected commercial activity. I think it's fair to say that many are taking liberties with the law to create gig revenue streams by trying to extend into gray areas, such as "reaction videos" to flims, music or other protected works that display the entire work to the viewer and deprives the rights owner from sharing in the revenue that was generated from their efforts and work of authorship. This type of activity is one step removed but still has the same whiff of potentially straddling boundaries.

Below are boundaries and solid reasons for having a signed consent form for a video which includes the likeness of others for videos being posted online or displayed publicly, most especially those that are intended to and generating revenues for the film maker.

1. Non-Commercial v. Commercial Interests. Making a film or recording a video of a constitutionally protected public area which includes people for your own private and/or legitimate non-commercial purpose (e.g., ensuring that government is acting appropriately) is one type of act. But that is entirely different from filming in public for the purpose of the promotion of commerce, public display, and private commercial gain. Claiming you're protected because your motive was the former is certainly not a guaranteed shield if actions enter the latter. The First Amendment has limitations that people tend to ignore when convenient.

2. If the activity infringes upon the legitimate right of another, including the government's right to engage in its operations, the First Amendment Right is limited.

3. Consider state privacy and right of publicity laws, which vary between states, with California being the most vigilant.

California's Right of Publicity Law Cal. Civ. Code § 3344

Any person who knowingly uses another's name, voice, signature, photograph, or likeness, in any manner, on or in products, merchandise, or goods, or for purposes of advertising or selling, or soliciting purchases of, products, merchandise, goods, or services, without that person's prior consent, or, in the case of a minor, the prior consent of their parent or legal guardian, shall be liable for any damages sustained by the person or persons injured as a result thereof. In addition, in any action brought under this section, the person who violated the section shall be liable to the injured party or parties in an amount equal to the greater of seven hundred fifty dollars ($750) or the actual damages suffered by them as a result of the unauthorized use, and any profits from the unauthorized use that are attributable to the use and are not taken into account in computing the actual damages. In establishing these profits, the injured party or parties are required to present proof only of the gross revenue attributable to the unauthorized use, and the person who violated this section is required to prove their deductible expenses. Punitive damages may also be awarded to the injured party or parties. The prevailing party in any action under this section shall also be entitled to attorney's fees and costs.

4. Consider other statutes that may apply, such as California Penal Code 632, which you generally are prohibited from recording a private phone conversation without consent, even if the person is in public, since California is a "two-party" (all-party) consent state.

A person who, intentionally and without the consent of all parties to a confidential communication, uses an electronic amplifying or recording device to eavesdrop upon or record the confidential communication, whether the communication is carried on among the parties in the presence of one another or by means of a telegraph, telephone, or other device, except a radio, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding two thousand five hundred dollars ($2,500) per violation, or imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, or in the state prison, or by both that fine and imprisonment. If the person has previously been convicted of a violation of this section or Section 631, 632.5, 632.6, 632.7, or 636, the person shall be punished by a fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars ($10,000) per violation, by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, or in the state prison, or by both that fine and imprisonment.
 
if I'm going to record someone for the purpose of making money, I do have to have a signed release.

Why do you think that? It's not true.


Now, these auditors usually have a YouTube channel, and if the video is monetized, wouldn't that mean the person could sue once the video is posted?

Could sue? Sure. Anyone could sue anyone for anything. What cause(s) of action do you suppose might be alleged?
 
Why do you think that? It's not true.
Out in public, there is no expectation of privacy. This is protected under the first amendment. If it were not, then nobody could legally have a dashcam in their car, or any surveillance cameras pointed off their property. It would also mean that no TV news station would be able to video out in public with people walking by in the back ground.

Could sue? Sure. Anyone could sue anyone for anything. What cause(s) of action do you suppose might be alleged?

Using someones likeness for a commercial purpose without a release. Let's say I'm standing on the sidewalk, which is public property, and I'm making a movie, and you are also on the sidewalk, and end up in the background of my movie. I'm planning to make money from my movie. If I don't have a release from you being in the background, You would have a case against me. If I'm making the movie, and your house is in the background, I have to have a property release from you for that.
 
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Not all YouTube channels are monetized. But if the "First Amendment Auditor" is monetizing their channel, their activities have arguably crossed the line towards non-protected commercial activity
And I don't disagree with what you are saying, and let me say now that I'm not trying to argue any points,, just having the discussion to try to understand. But let's say that by them monetizing their video, it does cross the line since they are now making money from it. The local TV station can go out and record video in public just the same, and there are certainly ads being played during the news cast. Anyone can pick up a camera and call themself a journalist. So, what would differentiate a first amendment auditor who makes money from their video, that they say is journalism, apart from the local TV station?

On some of your other points, I don't disagree about if someone were on the phone in one of these videos, or if they were blocking someone from getting by on the sidewalk, or interfering with people. But I'm just taking about them standing on public property, recording what they can see.
 
And I don't disagree with what you are saying, and let me say now that I'm not trying to argue any points,, just having the discussion to try to understand. But let's say that by them monetizing their video, it does cross the line since they are now making money from it. The local TV station can go out and record video in public just the same, and there are certainly ads being played during the news cast. Anyone can pick up a camera and call themself a journalist. So, what would differentiate a first amendment auditor who makes money from their video, that they say is journalism, apart from the local TV station?

On some of your other points, I don't disagree about if someone were on the phone in one of these videos, or if they were blocking someone from getting by on the sidewalk, or interfering with people. But I'm just taking about them standing on public property, recording what they can see.
This is an excellent observation and argument, but let's not pretend that the two are so easily compared just because many people have an excellent smartphone camera and suddenly claim to be a journalist when convenient. I don't think anyone would argue that ABC or NBC news is not a bona fide news organization, replete with journalists who do and should enjoy the protections and privileges afforded to the press such as the below. They have all made a significant investment in their business and craft to provide us with newsworthy information that is not typically capable of being provided by an individual with an iPhone.


As to what constitutes a "journalist" has been changing and evolving over the course of the past few decades, including in various court opinions. I recall this being an issue before the world wide web, when I built and ran a popular telephone operated bulletin board system upon which we reported local news and events.

At the moment I don't have a sufficiently well crafted answer with legal citations for you as to what should define a journalist. But it's quite clear that these so-called "First Amendment Auditors" bear the burden of establishing that they qualify. Having an iPhone and YouTube channel doesn't necessarily make one a journalist nor eligible to win a Pulitzer prize. Someone I know has an Instagram account, takes far too many ridiculous photos of herself, and enjoys calling herself a professional model because she receives a few dollars via Patreon from a handful of desperate admirers. Is there a difference between her and Cindy Crawford?

If these auditors are camped out in front of the Post Office waiting for a federal employee to make a mistake without any specific reason for suspecting such is likely to occur, it sounds like a fishing expedition that may disrupt the ability of the Post Office to carry on regular business - both for employees and customers. It then becomes arguable that First Amendment protection should not apply. Many of the "auditors" I've seen seem to be instigators surveilling sensitive areas for the sake of trying to monetize an accident, mistake or to simply embarrass patrons for the entertainment of their viewers rather than providing any bona fide news value.

I've become very concerned about the need for the law to catch up with technological innovation. Forget about the problems being generated by AI. It's now easily affordable to set up a video camera and point it at the sidewalk in front of a building and record who walks in and out 24/7/365. What used to be subject to human limitations, e.g., the paparazzi waiting for the money shot with their camera, is no longer subject to limitation. So is an auditor of my block on a major street a journalist or a nuisance? Would a condo or co-op hesitate to sue anyone who is engaging in such activity?

Bottom line - get signed consent forms if you don't want your leave yourself open to needing to defend yourself against a lawsuit or an arrest and leaving it up to a court to decide whether you were right or wrong and subject to an expensive judicial determination.
 
Here is a very interesting article I perused on the First Amendment Audits and Audtiors and should provide greater insight and context. There is a shorter article below and a 66 page PDF with legal citations: Responding to First Amendment "Audits"in the Local Government Context, by Kristi A. Nickodem and Kristina Wilson

The short article is here and is published on the University of North Carolina website and an excerpt of the opening appears below. It's well worth the read.


Imagine you are a local government employee, working in the lobby area of a county agency. A man walks in holding a cell phone and begins filming the lobby area, including your interactions with people seeking services from the county. When you ask what he is doing, he says, "I'm exercising my First Amendment right to film inside a government building that's open to the public." What do you do next?

This scenario is happening at local government buildings across North Carolina. The individuals filming in these buildings refer to themselves as "First Amendment auditors" and claim to be testing whether a local government is complying with the First Amendment by allowing them to film freely.
 
This is an excellent observation and argument, but let's not pretend that the two are so easily compared just because many people have an excellent smartphone camera and suddenly claim to be a journalist when convenient.
I fully agree that the TV news and a first amendment auditor are not the same because I get what they are really trying to do. But, at least from what I can see, they are still protected under the first amendment just the same. So I guess to that end, what does constitute a journalist? That's more of a rhetorical question because I know it's not something that would have an easy answer and could go any number of ways in court. But, on the flip side, let's take your example of your friend on Instagram. The only difference between her and Cindy Crawford to me would be the scale. There was a time when Cindy Crawford took her first pictures and maybe made a few dollars. So at what point did Cindy Crawford become professional?

That said though, the question I still have at the moment is how is the regular TV news station able to video in public and make money doing so, but don't need releases? Would that be under Fair Use?

I guess the other part of it is if someone did take one of these people to court, would it be worth it to them with everything that it seems would have to be argued out, vs how much would they end up with.
 
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Out in public, there is no expectation of privacy. This is protected under the first amendment. If it were not, then nobody could legally have a dashcam in their car, or any surveillance cameras pointed off their property. It would also mean that no TV news station would be able to video out in public with people walking by in the back ground.

I'm aware of all that, but you didn't answer my question. You wrote that you think that, "if [you're] going to record someone for the purpose of making money, [you] do have to have a signed release." I asked why you think that is true.


Using someones likeness for a commercial purpose without a release.

OK...so right of publicity. Under what state's law? You tagged this as relating to U.S. federal law, but there is no federal right of publicity.

Let's use California Civil Code section 3344 as an example. You'll note that the term "commercial purpose" doesn't appear in the statute. Nor does it say that either the intentional or incidental earning of money is a prerequisite to liability. Take particular note of sub-section (e).


Let's say I'm standing on the sidewalk, which is public property, and I'm making a movie, and you are also on the sidewalk, and end up in the background of my movie. I'm planning to make money from my movie. If I don't have a release from you being in the background, You would have a case against me. If I'm making the movie, and your house is in the background, I have to have a property release from you for that.

A property release? LOL! Where did you get this idea? And you're wrong in both cases. My guess is that you're confusing best practices with what the law actually says.
 
The only difference between her and Cindy Crawford to me would be the scale. There was a time when Cindy Crawford took her first pictures and maybe made a few dollars. So at what point did Cindy Crawford become professional?
Not comparable at all in numerous aspects as I'll explain below. Perhaps a better example is a doctor, a lawyer, a surgeon, a plumber, or any skilled person at their craft that provides a noticeable value add that separates the wheat from the chaff. Being able to change a tire and oil does not make one a professional (and licensed) car mechanic. So what value add do these auditors provide that anyone with a smartphone and lots of time and no job cannot do?

My neighbor doesn't posess the focus, investment of time in learning the craft of being a professional model, doesn't make the effort for training and practice, etc. and also knows nothing about photography. She is just someone with a smartphone who likes to shoot lots of photos of herself and tries to make money wooing the few lonely souls who send her some cash.
 
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