Biden: "I Would Have Thrashed Trump Mercilessly, Had THEY Allowed Me to Run!!!

[leslie82]

That is what he said he would do. But when he saw the pardons and commuted sentences that Biden granted, like 37 on death row or the entire J6 committee etc., in his last days, he said and I quote, F***k it, pardon them all.

Or it was the fact he was too lazy to either go through each case or have his staff do it. It had nothing to do with Biden's pardons or commutations. Stop making excuses for that fascist, sexist, racist, sexual predator pos.

 

[Mark_A]

Because I didn't have any issue with those pardons - it was made clear that those people would be retaliated against for doing their jobs. The J6 idjits (the ones who were violent/destructive) were tried, convicted, and sentenced. Many already had criminal records. Quite a few have already been re-arrested for other alleged crimes. Apples and oranges. IMO.

What if those who were supposedly doing their job, were investigated (what you call retaliation) for illegal activities, like witness tampering? Some of those who testified before Congress were convinced (some how) to change their testimony 180 degrees in order to implicate Trump of crimes. Should suspicions of bribes paid to witnesses, threats against witnesses, all of which might be potential criminal witness tampering, be investigated? Basically you seem to be saying that if an innocent person is investigated, they will be found guilty, but you only seem to care when that happens to Democrats.

I certainly don't agree with all the Trump pardons, but I don't think he would have been able to get away with those pardons for those January 6 rioters who committed violent acts, had the government not charged every single person who was there of serious crimes. Plus of course, the Biden pardons made it easy for Trump to pardon everyone. How can Biden pardon his son of $1.2 million in income tax evasion and get away with saying it was political?

 

[Tax Counsel]

How can Biden pardon his son of $1.2 million in income tax evasion and get away with saying it was political?

I think you meant to say that it was NOT political. I think Biden's pardon of Hunter was wrong, but not because it was a political move. I don't believe politics was at the center of that decision. I think the decision to spare his son the hardships of a conviction. While as a parent that's very understandable, by using his unique pardon power he engaged in a form of corruption. Though it would have been hard for him to see Hunter take the consequences for the crime committed the pardon was not justified either by the interests of justice or out principles of justice.

Trump's pardons of all the January 6 participants was definitely political. And you're right that the Biden pardon of his son gave him some cover to do it. But I grew up with the principle that just because someone else commits a wrongful act that doesn't make it right for another person to do the same thing. Trump should not have pardoned those convicted of violent crime. It was morally wrong and sends a signal that he's willing to tolerate violence if the violence is done by his supporters. That's a dangerous path as undermines support for the justice system.

 

[Mark_A]

I think you meant to say that it was NOT political. I think Biden's pardon of Hunter was wrong, but not because it was a political move. I don't believe politics was at the center of that decision. I think the decision to spare his son the hardships of a conviction. While as a parent that's very understandable, by using his unique pardon power he engaged in a form of corruption. Though it would have been hard for him to see Hunter take the consequences for the crime committed the pardon was not justified either by the interests of justice or out principles of justice.

Trump's pardons of all the January 6 participants was definitely political. And you're right that the Biden pardon of his son gave him some cover to do it. But I grew up with the principle that just because someone else commits a wrongful act that doesn't make it right for another person to do the same thing. Trump should not have pardoned those convicted of violent crime. It was morally wrong and sends a signal that he's willing to tolerate violence if the violence is done by his supporters. That's a dangerous path as undermines support for the justice system.

Perhaps my comment was somewhat confusing. President Biden said the the prosecution of his son Hunter Biden on Federal Income Tax evasion charges ($1.4 million) was politically motivated.

Hunter Biden pleaded guilty in federal court in Los Angeles on September 5, 2024 to all counts in a nine-count indictment, including three felony tax offenses and six misdemeanor tax offenses. There was no plea agreement. According to the indictment, Hunter Biden engaged in a four-year scheme in which he chose not to pay at least $1.4 million in self-assessed federal taxes he owed for tax years 2016 through 2019 and to evade the assessment of taxes for tax year 2018 when he filed false returns.

Biden was also found guilty on all counts in Delaware after be charged with making a false statement during the purchase of a firearm; making a false statement related to information required to be kept by a licensed firearm dealer; and one count of possession of a firearm by a person who is an unlawful user of or addicted to a controlled substance.

I don't think Biden's pardon was political, since he is not going to be in office any more, and it was just a way to protect the Biden crime family from prosecution of the massive abuses already found, plus additional abuses likely to be proven regarding the extortion and bribery of Ukraine and China to benefit the Biden family (and "the big guy upstairs").

 

[welkin]

Trump should not have pardoned those convicted of violent crime. It was morally wrong and sends a signal that he's willing to tolerate violence if the violence is done by his supporters.

You know that is bull sh*t.

 

[stealthy1]

you only seem to care when that happens to Democrats.

You assume.