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They (The Democratic elite) removed Biden not because of his health but because he couldn't win. And they (Democrats) claim that Trump is anti-democratic. What a joke.
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Pelosi Admits to pulling of the Coup to remove Biden.
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Pelosi interview
They (The Democratic elite) removed Biden not because of his health but because he couldn't win. And they (Democrats) claim that Trump is anti-democratic. What a joke.
army judge
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A sudden appropriation of leadership or power; a takeover.
"a boardroom coup."
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A sudden appropriation of leadership or power; a takeover.
"a boardroom coup."
You're correct, @welkin , whatever was done to Biden, appeared to have lacked violence.
It might have been what some term Coup d'tat, alas it may have been accomplished without violence.
Logic and life experience tell me that violence need only be threatened to achieve most goals. Either way, 14,000,000 voters voices were silenced, and Karma Chameleon was coronated, as she/he/it seeks to assume the throne.
Upon further reflection, I'll go with NUMBER THREE above!
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"a boardroom coup."
idiom
- (count coup) Among certain Native American peoples, to ceremoniously recount one's exploits in battle.
intransitive verb
- To make a coup.
More at Wordnik
A sudden appropriation of leadership or power; a takeover.
"a boardroom coup."
You're correct, @welkin , whatever was done to Biden, appeared to have lacked violence.
It might have been what some term Coup d'tat, alas it may have been accomplished without violence.
Logic and life experience tell me that violence need only be threatened to achieve most goals. Either way, 14,000,000 voters voices were silenced, and Karma Chameleon was coronated, as she/he/it seeks to assume the throne.
Upon further reflection, I'll go with NUMBER THREE above!
- A sudden appropriation of leadership or power; a takeover.
"a boardroom coup."
Coup d’etat | Definition, Examples, & Facts | Britannica
Coup d’etat, the sudden, violent overthrow of an existing government by a small group. Unlike a revolution, in which large numbers of people work for basic social, economic, and political change, a coup is a change in power from the top that merely results in the replacement of leading...
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cbg
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Until the Convention has taken place, the Democratic National Party is free to choose anyone they care to as their nominee.
Just as the Republican party can.
Just as the Republican party can.
army judge
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Vice President Kamala Harris' ascent to the top of the Democratic ticket "happened by way of a coup d'état," and though she has a bit of a bump in polls, she's still in a honeymoon period, Sen. Eric Schmitt, R-Mo., told Newsmax Saturday.
"Well, I think you're typically going to have a honeymoon period, right, anytime you have a nominee," Schmitt said on "America Right Now."
"What's unique about this is it happened by way of a coup d'état, so that's historically unique. She's going to have her convention. And now, I think they still could have problems with the pro-Hamas wing of their party, even though she's, you know, passed over Josh Shapiro because he's Jewish, which is really sad and a testament to how radical the party's become.
"But the truth is, she's got alittle bit of a bump here, but those are national polls. And you look at other polls, [Donald] Trump is still winning. So even with this honeymoon period, she's not surpassed him. And what really matters is these 5 or 6 battleground states. And what do they all have in common?
"They have working families that are struggling. The Republican Party now is a multiethnic, working class party. And you look at that ad, there's no way you can make a reasonable argument that people are better off than they were four years ago. So when they go in the polls that is always the most important issue that people ask themselves as to who they're going to vote for. And Kamala Harris, try as she might, can't run away from that record," he added.
"Well, I think you're typically going to have a honeymoon period, right, anytime you have a nominee," Schmitt said on "America Right Now."
"What's unique about this is it happened by way of a coup d'état, so that's historically unique. She's going to have her convention. And now, I think they still could have problems with the pro-Hamas wing of their party, even though she's, you know, passed over Josh Shapiro because he's Jewish, which is really sad and a testament to how radical the party's become.
"But the truth is, she's got alittle bit of a bump here, but those are national polls. And you look at other polls, [Donald] Trump is still winning. So even with this honeymoon period, she's not surpassed him. And what really matters is these 5 or 6 battleground states. And what do they all have in common?
"They have working families that are struggling. The Republican Party now is a multiethnic, working class party. And you look at that ad, there's no way you can make a reasonable argument that people are better off than they were four years ago. So when they go in the polls that is always the most important issue that people ask themselves as to who they're going to vote for. And Kamala Harris, try as she might, can't run away from that record," he added.
Tax Counsel
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The Democratic party followed its own rules in this, so it's no "coup", which would be taking power outside the rules. The Democratic party nominee will be selected at its convention, just like the Republican was selected at its convention. I don't see why Republicans are harping on a "coup" when Trump says he's the greatest and beat anybody. If that's true, he shouldn't care who the Democrats put up against him, right? If he was as great as he and his closest acolytes say, he should have no trouble beating Harris, right? So why are they so focused on this coup fixation rather than promoting the guy they think is clearly the greatest and will win easily? It's because they don't really believe Trumps stump speech lines about being the greatest. It's because they fear in the general election that Trump and the Republican won't be able to convince a majority of the public in the battleground states to vote for him. In other words, they see the possibility that Trump might lose again. When the general election really takes off in September when summer vacations are over and the public starts focusing more on politics, Trump will have his chance to prove he is the greatest, that he's the best. If he fails to do that, that's on him. He has a fair shot to compete, no one's denying him that.
The sooner they realize that the election is more about Trump than Biden the better off they'll be. It should be easy to get Trump to pivot to talking about himself, that's his favorite topic after all. He'll do better with that than attacking "sleepy Joe" or attacking Harris' VP as not even being white, which is one the stupidest statements Ive ever seen a presidential candidate make. Voters want to know what he'll do for them, not what funny nicknames he can come up for his opponents. So far, IMO he's not put together much of a coherent message about what he'll do as president, possibly because he has no idea himself what he'll do. He may need better campaign managers, because so far his campaign is not resonating all that far from his core base. He needs more than his core base to win.
I really wish the Republicans had run a better candidate than Trump. Someone younger, more engetic, and with a message that appeals to the needs and desires of the middle class instead of the rich, as Republicans tend to do these days, or focus on the poor, as Democrats tend to do. In other words, run a candidate that I could support. Maybe in 2028 they'll finally move on from Trumpism and return to sane conservative policies.
The sooner they realize that the election is more about Trump than Biden the better off they'll be. It should be easy to get Trump to pivot to talking about himself, that's his favorite topic after all. He'll do better with that than attacking "sleepy Joe" or attacking Harris' VP as not even being white, which is one the stupidest statements Ive ever seen a presidential candidate make. Voters want to know what he'll do for them, not what funny nicknames he can come up for his opponents. So far, IMO he's not put together much of a coherent message about what he'll do as president, possibly because he has no idea himself what he'll do. He may need better campaign managers, because so far his campaign is not resonating all that far from his core base. He needs more than his core base to win.
I really wish the Republicans had run a better candidate than Trump. Someone younger, more engetic, and with a message that appeals to the needs and desires of the middle class instead of the rich, as Republicans tend to do these days, or focus on the poor, as Democrats tend to do. In other words, run a candidate that I could support. Maybe in 2028 they'll finally move on from Trumpism and return to sane conservative policies.
Tax Counsel
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Well, Schmitt is right about that. The thing is, Trump can't run away from his record, either. And a lot people didn't think his presidency was all that great or he'd poll much better.
army judge
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Thank you for sharing your opinion.
As far as anyone's record, words, deeds; some records have suddenly vanished, as does the dew with each morning appearance of our Planet's sun.
Sure, Trump has a record.
I don't think he's worried about his record being revealed.
On the other hand, I'm wondering which individual will own the invasion?
Open our nation's borders, allowing terrorists, drug dealers, pedophiles, sex traffickers, smugglers, spies, and all other manner of human refuse to walk right in, tell some concocted lie about this or that, and walk right in. Then, another national idiot decided to gift this human riff raff with thousands of taxpayer dollars.
Meanwhile, another genius puts these invaders up in some our country's finest, plush, most expensive hotels.
The human vermin thank their benefactors by proxy, as they rape, rob, loot, and murder innocent, trusting, unsuspecting citizens.
I doubt, however, that very little will ever be fully, made known to the trusting citizenry.
army judge
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This just in....
Rep. Mike Waltz, R-Fla., insisted on Sunday that the House Oversight Committee's probe into President Joe Biden isn't going away despite the president's campaign suspension.
Waltz, who sits on the committee, told "Sunday Morning Futures" the probe is not going away: "We have a duty to pursue this on committee, and I give Chairman Comer a lot of credit for continuing to just chase the facts."
"At the end of the day, Hunter Biden was used as a foreign agent. He's in violation of the Foreign Agent Registrations Act to influence policy with Joe Biden. And Joe Biden was complicit. So not only ... is he guilty of money laundering, not only should he be charged with tax evasion, which, finally, thanks to the committee's work he is being charged with, but he acted as a foreign agent. And this isn't from New Zealand or the United Kingdom; this is from Russia, from China, from our adversaries, and from corrupt officials all over the world.
"Biden knew, and just as [Vice President Kamala] Harris — just as the people around Biden knew that he was inept and incompetent and incapable of doing the job, they also knew that all of this was going on."
On March 28, Oversight Chair James Comer, R-Ky., invited President Joe Biden to testify about his family's "pay-for-influence schemes." According to the invitation's press release, "The Bidens received $15 million from China, Ukraine, Russia, Kazakhstan, and Romania and ... $40,000 from CEFC, a Chinese government linked energy company."
Rep. Mike Waltz, R-Fla., insisted on Sunday that the House Oversight Committee's probe into President Joe Biden isn't going away despite the president's campaign suspension.
Waltz, who sits on the committee, told "Sunday Morning Futures" the probe is not going away: "We have a duty to pursue this on committee, and I give Chairman Comer a lot of credit for continuing to just chase the facts."
"At the end of the day, Hunter Biden was used as a foreign agent. He's in violation of the Foreign Agent Registrations Act to influence policy with Joe Biden. And Joe Biden was complicit. So not only ... is he guilty of money laundering, not only should he be charged with tax evasion, which, finally, thanks to the committee's work he is being charged with, but he acted as a foreign agent. And this isn't from New Zealand or the United Kingdom; this is from Russia, from China, from our adversaries, and from corrupt officials all over the world.
On March 28, Oversight Chair James Comer, R-Ky., invited President Joe Biden to testify about his family's "pay-for-influence schemes." According to the invitation's press release, "The Bidens received $15 million from China, Ukraine, Russia, Kazakhstan, and Romania and ... $40,000 from CEFC, a Chinese government linked energy company."
By forcing Biden out of the race, 14,465,519 (the number that voted in democratic primaries for Biden) democratic voters were disenfranchised. There is not a single vote for Harris for president in the primary. How many of those 14M+ votes would have gone to Harris if she was at the top of the ticket? Probably zero.
The candidate is supposed to picked by the people during the primary and not the democratic elite behind closed doors. That didn't happen.
They did not follow their own rules. So, let's read some of the rules:
I don't remember seeing Harris's name for president on any ballot ever.
Rule 13(J) of the Democratic National Committee defines a pledged delegate's responsibility:
| Delegates elected to the national convention pledged to a presidential candidate shall in all good conscience reflect the sentiments of those who elected them. |
They elected Biden for president, not Harris.
https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/2024-Delegate-Selection-Rules.pdf
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Redemptionman
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Funny how we didn't get to listen to Crooks explain he was a patsy. Although it is interesting that Crooks trained and shot at the same range with members of the Secret Service, FBI and few other alphabet agencies. Also probably not a coincidence that after it failed they killed Crooks instantly and then pivoted immediately to the narrative of him being a Republican. Then replacing Biden could be a coincidence as well. Lots of coincidences to keep one party in power, don't you think?
The O'bama democrats are the greatest threat in the history of our nation as they continue to scheme and use every thing at their power including AI generated crowd gathering for Kamala who couldn't really draw flies at a picnic. They have Kristi Noem labeled as a domestic terrorist, and they continue to commit crimes and act like the NAZI socialist party of the USA. They take the stance of they only need 20-30 percent of the popular vote to manipulate the results to make it appear like a win for them.
The real terrorists to our country go by the name of Nancy Pelosi, Husein O'Bama, Chuck Schumer and Kamala Harris. Cut from the same cloth and continues to undermine and try to destroy our constitutional republic. They weaponize and use the DOJ to come after the opposing political parties just like 3rd world countries do. Then they point the finger at the other side claiming it is them. They will do anything to remain in power. Anything.
The O'bama democrats are the greatest threat in the history of our nation as they continue to scheme and use every thing at their power including AI generated crowd gathering for Kamala who couldn't really draw flies at a picnic. They have Kristi Noem labeled as a domestic terrorist, and they continue to commit crimes and act like the NAZI socialist party of the USA. They take the stance of they only need 20-30 percent of the popular vote to manipulate the results to make it appear like a win for them.
The real terrorists to our country go by the name of Nancy Pelosi, Husein O'Bama, Chuck Schumer and Kamala Harris. Cut from the same cloth and continues to undermine and try to destroy our constitutional republic. They weaponize and use the DOJ to come after the opposing political parties just like 3rd world countries do. Then they point the finger at the other side claiming it is them. They will do anything to remain in power. Anything.
army judge
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I've found Newsmax far more informative, as well as fairer than some Donkey cheerleaders.
As in ... CNN, MSNBCDONKEYPARTY, ABC, CBS, NBC, FOXyLOXy, NewsNation.....
army judge
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Thank you very much for spewing so much truth.
I never get enough truth.
I love truth.
I always endeavor to set Truth free!!!!
Redemptionman
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unfortunately, the best news in America comes from the BBC. They were first on the ground in the failed assassination of Trump and then reported what actually happened while the fake news outlets were left wondering what narrative to go with.
Tax Counsel
Well-Known Member
True enough. But Biden dropped out, so they needed a replacement, right? So Harris has been nominated to fill the slot and Democratic party delegates (whom the voters elected) will decide the party's candidate at the convention. Like it or not, that's the way it works. The rule you quoted applies if Biden was still running, as it clearly indicates. Which means that the rule doesn't apply here. Nice try, though.
Redemptionman
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the only mistake Trump made was agreeing to debate Biden before the DNC convention. Once the convention is over for the DNC then they can not change candidates again. That would be a coup, but it was predetermined to take out Biden when they did. Not a coincidence, I do find it funny that they probably wouldn't be changing candidates had the assignation attempt on Trump succeeded.
I am surprised that they are debating anyway especially on ABC. I wish JD Vance could do both debates but I am confident that if Trump doesn't get rattled by the Veep then he will succeed. With the world on edge and possible World War it is important to have component people who can deescalate the situation and stop the war machine from churning any further.
I am surprised that they are debating anyway especially on ABC. I wish JD Vance could do both debates but I am confident that if Trump doesn't get rattled by the Veep then he will succeed. With the world on edge and possible World War it is important to have component people who can deescalate the situation and stop the war machine from churning any further.
Wait... this is the first I've heard of a T***p tryst! Who was it supposed to be with?
Redemptionman
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lol assassination, sometimes autocorrect will correct to the wrong term. If Trump was no longer around then the DNC would have rolled with Biden in November not that wack O Harris.
Tax Counsel
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That part still applies. Biden isn't in the race anymore, and Biden released all his delegates. So they aren't pledged to Biden anymore. They are supposed to reflect the sentiments of those who elected them, and presumably they will do just that at the convention. As has been the case for decades, the candidates are selected at the convention and they are free to pick any Democrat willing to run. So no, the voters sentiments aren't being ignored. The delegates they elected (and in the primary it is actually the delegates who are elected, not the candidates themselves) will still be there representing them. Just like in the past elections, those delegates will choose the nominee. It's not so unusual nor nefarious as you make it out to be. Of course Trump doesn't like it. That's too bad for him but he doesn't get to pick the Democratic nominee.
Besides, Trump claims he can beat anybody, remember? If that was really true, he wouldn't continue harping about a non-existant coup. He'd instead relish the challenge. Funny thing, he's not like a guy who really believes that he can beat everyone.
His job is to run against the Democratic nominee, whoever that is, and that nominee hasn't yet been selected. Biden was never the nominee, he was the presumed nominee based on the delegates pledged to him. The nominee isn't selected until the votes are cast at the convention. If the Democrats thought their own rules were being violated they'd make that very clear. Yet I'm not hearing Democrats screaming they were done wrong in this process. It is THEIR party, not Trump's party, not the Republicans' party, and the Democrats get to choose whom they prefer without any input from Republicans. Just as the Republican delegates were free to choose Trump without Democratic input.
Like it or not, that's the way the process works. Biden is no longer runinng in the race. The Democrats have to select someone new. And they'll do it as they've long done: by votes at their convention.
Tax Counsel
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If that's what you want, Trump isn't the person for the job. He's not ever been good at deescalation. It's just not his style. He has his strong points, but this isn't one of them.
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